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0004401Zandronum[All Projects] Suggestionpublic2024-08-27 18:542024-09-05 19:20
Reporterunknownna 
Assigned ToKaminsky 
PrioritynormalSeveritytweakReproducibilityN/A
Statusneeds reviewResolutionopen 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version 
Target Version3.2Fixed in Version 
Summary0004401: Minor change to small text under large frag messages in (Team)LMS
DescriptionSince "opponents" was changed to "enemies", then maybe the small print under the large frag messages should say "enemies" too.

st_hud.cpp, line 1214-1216:
// [AK] If there are any opponents left, display that instead of the place string.
        if ( ulMenLeftStanding > 0 )
            message.Format( "%d opponent%s left standing", static_cast<unsigned int>( ulMenLeftStanding ), ulMenLeftStanding != 1 ? "s" : "" );
Additional InformationMaybe the "fragged by" message in TeamLMS should also display enemies or allies left. It's perhaps more necessary to see enemies or allies left when you die instead of the team score, especially if sv_maxlives is higher. But I'm not sure, up to you.
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User avatar (0023994)
Kaminsky (developer)
2024-09-02 20:17

 I changed the wording of the subtext to "enemies" here:'https://foss.heptapod.net/zandronum/zandronum-stable/-/merge_requests/183 [^]' and to make the word stand out better, I added colouring and used dark red. It doesn't seem too important to change how or when the "enemies left" message appears, or whether it should also show how many allies are left. I think it's okay if it only appears when you frag an enemy in (T)LMS.
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unknownna (updater)
2024-09-05 12:34

 Although the text change is good, I have to say the colored "enemy" subtext feels a bit distracting after playing with it. If would probably be best to leave it a regular gray. At least that's the impression I got after testing it.

And are we absolutely certain we don't want to print "allies left standing" in the subtext when fragged during a teamLMS game?
User avatar (0024007)
Kaminsky (developer)
2024-09-05 15:27
edited on: 2024-09-05 16:04
Quote from "unknownna"
I have to say the colored "enemy" subtext feels a bit distracting after playing with it. If would probably be best to leave it a regular gray. At least that's the impression I got after testing it.


I figured that colourizing the text would've made it easier to read the subtext without it being too distracting, but if you believe that it is, then I can remove it.

EDIT: I removed the colour and updated the merge request.

Quote from "unknownna"
And are we absolutely certain we don't want to print "allies left standing" in the subtext when fragged during a teamLMS game?


Large frag messages have existed in Skulltag and Zandronum for a long time, but I never noticed anyone complain about them not printing how many allies are left in (T)LMS. I would also like to get 3.2 wrapped up very soon, so I rather not spend more time trying to address what seems like a very trivial issue to me. Changing the wording from "opponents" to "enemies" so that it's consistent with the rest of the HUD was a reasonable suggestion.
User avatar (0024013)
unknownna (updater)
2024-09-05 19:20

 I tested the newer merge request, and I think it's probably a bit better with it being gray even if it looks more boring, because it sticks out less when there's a lot of action going on in front of you and you're trying to frag others while avoiding being fragged. I hope you think it's ok also.

Quote from Kaminsky
I would also like to get 3.2 wrapped up very soon, so I rather not spend more time trying to address what seems like a very trivial issue to me. Changing the wording from "opponents" to "enemies" so that it's consistent with the rest of the HUD was a reasonable suggestion.


Fair enough, no problem. It's important that we agree on what works best.

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- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2024-08-27 18:54 unknownna New Issue
2024-08-27 18:54 unknownna File Added: Screenshot_Doom_20240827_203705.png
2024-08-27 18:55 unknownna File Added: Screenshot_Doom_20240827_203854.png
2024-09-02 20:17 Kaminsky Note Added: 0023994
2024-09-02 20:17 Kaminsky Assigned To => Kaminsky
2024-09-02 20:17 Kaminsky Status new => needs review
2024-09-02 20:17 Kaminsky Target Version => 3.2
2024-09-05 12:34 unknownna Note Added: 0024001
2024-09-05 12:34 unknownna Status needs review => feedback
2024-09-05 15:27 Kaminsky Note Added: 0024007
2024-09-05 16:04 Kaminsky Note Edited: 0024007 View Revisions
2024-09-05 16:04 Kaminsky Status feedback => needs review
2024-09-05 19:20 unknownna Note Added: 0024013




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