0004337: Players lose all earned medals when turning into a spectator

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(0023848) Kaminsky (developer) 2024-07-29 15:00 edited on: 2024-07-29 15:01	Right now, when a player spectates, they lose everything including frags, points, wins, etc., so shouldn't they lose all of their medals too? If players want to keep their medals upon spectating, wouldn't they want to keep the other stats that are lost too? Or at least, it seems logical to keep everything. The source code also suggests that this is intended, so I wouldn't consider this a bug, but rather a suggestion to change the current behaviour.

(0023856) unknownna (updater) 2024-07-30 01:44	The only thing I'm worried about is some potential future medal stats tracking for player profiles. I'd want players turning into specators to keep their medals for tracking, in addition to players with cl_medals 0 earning medals under the hood, so to speak, so they don't miss out on stats. And is there a reason why players have to lose their stats when turning into a spectator? I can see the case in team-based modes when switching teams, but can't think of anything in regular modes at the moment.

(0023863) Kaminsky (developer) 2024-07-30 15:51 edited on: 2024-07-30 15:51	Quote from "unknownna" The only thing I'm worried about is some potential future medal stats tracking for player profiles. I'd want players turning into specators to keep their medals for tracking, in addition to players with cl_medals 0 earning medals under the hood, so to speak, so they don't miss out on stats. I'm guessing this would be an ACS mod that makes use of the account system and EVENT scripts (e.g. GAMEEVENT_PLAYERMEDALS), right? At least right now, I don't think player profiles would become a hard-coded feature of the port, if I'm understanding this correctly. I've seen stuff like this used for events like FNF back in the day. Quote from "unknownna" And is there a reason why players have to lose their stats when turning into a spectator? I can see the case in team-based modes when switching teams, but can't think of anything in regular modes at the moment. I'm going based on what I clearly see as intended behaviour (i.e. when the player becomes a spectator): // [BB] Make sure the player loses his frags, wins and points. if ( NETWORK_InClientMode() == false ) PLAYER_ResetAllScoreCounters ( pPlayer ); I suspect there's a specific reason for this decision, but I don't know it myself. Though, after trying out a few other FPS games, indeed, the player keeps their stats (e.g. frags/kills, deaths, etc.) if they spectate then re-join and/or change teams.

(0023889) unknownna (updater) 2024-08-02 10:32 edited on: 2024-08-05 14:10	Quote from Kaminsky I'm guessing this would be an ACS mod that makes use of the account system and EVENT scripts (e.g. GAMEEVENT_PLAYERMEDALS), right? At least right now, I don't think player profiles would become a hard-coded feature of the port, if I'm understanding this correctly. I've seen stuff like this used for events like FNF back in the day. I'm actually thinking of some basic hard-coded stuff. It would work well with the account system to give players a sense of progression, and perhaps build some community around it. But I feel this is a discussion best suited for another ticket. Quote from Kaminsky I suspect there's a specific reason for this decision, but I don't know it myself. Though, after trying out a few other FPS games, indeed, the player keeps their stats (e.g. frags/kills, deaths, etc.) if they spectate then re-join and/or change teams. I think some of the stats do have to be kept though when turning into a spectator, especially wins for the duel mode. Would be nice to know why stats are reset. I could see stats being reset in team modes, in order to not confuse others when switching teams. And from testing more, some stats are technically kept as a true spectator now, such as death counts. You can't see it on the scoreboard at the moment, but when you join the game, the game remembers your former stat.

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Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2024-06-16 15:48	unknownna	New Issue
2024-07-29 15:00	Kaminsky	Note Added: 0023848
2024-07-29 15:00	Kaminsky	Status	new => feedback
2024-07-29 15:01	Kaminsky	Note Edited: 0023848	View Revisions
2024-07-30 01:44	unknownna	Note Added: 0023856
2024-07-30 01:44	unknownna	Status	feedback => new
2024-07-30 15:51	Kaminsky	Note Added: 0023863
2024-07-30 15:51	Kaminsky	Note Edited: 0023863	View Revisions
2024-07-30 15:52	Kaminsky	Status	new => feedback
2024-08-02 10:32	unknownna	Note Added: 0023889
2024-08-02 10:32	unknownna	Status	feedback => new
2024-08-02 10:33	unknownna	Status	new => feedback
2024-08-05 14:10	unknownna	Note Edited: 0023889	View Revisions

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