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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0003973Zandronum[All Projects] Bugpublic2022-02-03 17:312024-08-18 04:35
Reporterbuu342 
Assigned To 
PrioritylowSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusclosedResolutionfixed 
PlatformMicrosoftOSWindowsOS VersionXP/Vista/7
Product Version3.1-beta 
Target VersionFixed in Version3.2 
Summary0003973: removeflag PLAYERSEARNFRAGS does not actually remove frags from the scoreboard
DescriptionAsked on Discord if this was a mistake on the Wiki or an actual oversight, and I was told it was the latter. Therefore, I've opened this ticket.

Using removeflag PLAYERSEARNFRAGS on Deathmatch (using addflag PLAYERSEARNPOINTS to actually allow the WAD to boot) does not actually remove the frags from the scoreboard.
Steps To Reproduce1) Load the included minimal WAD in Deathmatch
2) Look at the scoreboard
Attached Files? file icon fragsscore.wad [^] (147 bytes) 2022-02-03 17:31

- Relationships
related to 0001829resolvedKaminsky Customizable scoreboard 

-  Notes
User avatar (0022325)
arkore (reporter)
2022-08-26 00:14
edited on: 2022-08-26 00:16

 I strongly support this, and believe the priority should be higher, because the player experience is of upmost importance, and if frags are disabled, then it should be removed from the hud. it's less clutter, and more white-space. a win, win.

some players could ignore it, but some would prefer not having to ignore it.

i would suggest the simplest solution is to make the "frag" texts (in the HUD) be strings that can simply be set to a value of "", so that they appear invisible, therefore the hud layout remains intact, keeping it consistent for players that have become very familiar and comfortable with the layout and where their eyes (quickly) travel to parts of the layout that haven't changed. people don't like change, unless it's in their control.

thanks,
User avatar (0022850)
Kaminsky (developer)
2023-06-19 15:42
edited on: 2023-06-19 15:47

 It's now possible to add or remove columns like frags from the scoreboard using the SCORINFO lump, as explained here:'https://wiki.zandronum.com/SCORINFO [^]'

The PLAYERSEARNFRAGS flag in GAMEMODE determines if players (or teams) win games based on frag count, but removing it alone won't hide the frags column on the scoreboard. By default, the column still appears in game modes where players earn points or wins.

The flag's description on the wiki has since been updated to reflect its actual behaviour.
User avatar (0023954)
Kaminsky (developer)
2024-08-18 04:35

 It's been over a year since I posted my message to this ticket. To my knowledge, there hasn't been any further objections to the current behaviour of the PLAYERSEARNFRAGS flag and its impact (or rather, lack of) to the "frags" column on the scoreboard.

I'm going to close this ticket. If users want to remove the aforementioned column from the scoreboard, then SCORINFO can now be used for that instead.

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- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2022-02-03 17:31 buu342 New Issue
2022-02-03 17:31 buu342 File Added: fragsscore.wad
2022-08-10 14:54 Kaminsky Relationship added related to 0001829
2022-08-26 00:14 arkore Note Added: 0022325
2022-08-26 00:16 arkore Note Edited: 0022325 View Revisions
2023-06-19 15:42 Kaminsky Note Added: 0022850
2023-06-19 15:42 Kaminsky Status new => needs testing
2023-06-19 15:44 Kaminsky Note Edited: 0022850 View Revisions
2023-06-19 15:47 Kaminsky Note Edited: 0022850 View Revisions
2024-08-18 04:35 Kaminsky Note Added: 0023954
2024-08-18 04:35 Kaminsky Status needs testing => closed
2024-08-18 04:35 Kaminsky Resolution open => fixed
2024-08-18 04:35 Kaminsky Fixed in Version => 3.2




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