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0003973Zandronum[All Projects] Bugpublic2022-02-03 17:312024-08-18 04:35
Reporterbuu342 
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PrioritylowSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusclosedResolutionfixed 
PlatformMicrosoftOSWindowsOS VersionXP/Vista/7
Product Version3.1-beta 
Target VersionFixed in Version3.2 
Summary0003973: removeflag PLAYERSEARNFRAGS does not actually remove frags from the scoreboard
DescriptionAsked on Discord if this was a mistake on the Wiki or an actual oversight, and I was told it was the latter. Therefore, I've opened this ticket.

Using removeflag PLAYERSEARNFRAGS on Deathmatch (using addflag PLAYERSEARNPOINTS to actually allow the WAD to boot) does not actually remove the frags from the scoreboard.
Steps To Reproduce1) Load the included minimal WAD in Deathmatch
2) Look at the scoreboard
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related to 0001829resolved Kaminsky Customizable scoreboard 
Attached Files? fragsscore.wad (147) 2022-02-03 17:31
https://zandronum.com/tracker/file_download.php?file_id=2717&type=bug
Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2022-02-03 17:31buu342New Issue
2022-02-03 17:31buu342File Added: fragsscore.wad
2022-08-10 14:54KaminskyRelationship addedrelated to 0001829
2022-08-26 00:14arkoreNote Added: 0022325
2022-08-26 00:16arkoreNote Edited: 0022325bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=22325#r13678
2023-06-19 15:42KaminskyNote Added: 0022850
2023-06-19 15:42KaminskyStatusnew => needs testing
2023-06-19 15:44KaminskyNote Edited: 0022850bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=22850#r13957
2023-06-19 15:47KaminskyNote Edited: 0022850bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=22850#r13958
2024-08-18 04:35KaminskyNote Added: 0023954
2024-08-18 04:35KaminskyStatusneeds testing => closed
2024-08-18 04:35KaminskyResolutionopen => fixed
2024-08-18 04:35KaminskyFixed in Version => 3.2

Notes
(0022325)
arkore   
2022-08-26 00:14   
(edited on: 2022-08-26 00:16)
I strongly support this, and believe the priority should be higher, because the player experience is of upmost importance, and if frags are disabled, then it should be removed from the hud. it's less clutter, and more white-space. a win, win.

some players could ignore it, but some would prefer not having to ignore it.

i would suggest the simplest solution is to make the "frag" texts (in the HUD) be strings that can simply be set to a value of "", so that they appear invisible, therefore the hud layout remains intact, keeping it consistent for players that have become very familiar and comfortable with the layout and where their eyes (quickly) travel to parts of the layout that haven't changed. people don't like change, unless it's in their control.

thanks,
(0022850)
Kaminsky   
2023-06-19 15:42   
(edited on: 2023-06-19 15:47)
It's now possible to add or remove columns like frags from the scoreboard using the SCORINFO lump, as explained here:'https://wiki.zandronum.com/SCORINFO [^]'

The PLAYERSEARNFRAGS flag in GAMEMODE determines if players (or teams) win games based on frag count, but removing it alone won't hide the frags column on the scoreboard. By default, the column still appears in game modes where players earn points or wins.

The flag's description on the wiki has since been updated to reflect its actual behaviour.
(0023954)
Kaminsky   
2024-08-18 04:35   
It's been over a year since I posted my message to this ticket. To my knowledge, there hasn't been any further objections to the current behaviour of the PLAYERSEARNFRAGS flag and its impact (or rather, lack of) to the "frags" column on the scoreboard.

I'm going to close this ticket. If users want to remove the aforementioned column from the scoreboard, then SCORINFO can now be used for that instead.