0000074: Masterminds cause no damage

(0000213)
Frits (reporter)
2010-10-02 15:02
edited on: 2010-10-02 15:13

My fault it's only in multiplayer.
And it happens a lot but not always, you can stand in front of it and it won't be able to hit you.

(0000217)
Edward-san (developer)
2010-10-02 19:41
edited on: 2010-10-02 19:42

Confirmed, I've seen this in zdoom wars: when an alcolyte shoots at you, the projectiles hit you but doesn't cause you damage at the beginning. But after some time it causes you normal damage.

(0000219)
Torr Samaho (administrator)
2010-10-02 20:50

I just tried this online on Vanilla Doom map20 and everything worked fine. Who can reproduce this and under which circumstances?

Regarding, ZDoom Wars: I have no idea if this is a ZDoom Wars bug or not. If you think it's a Skulltag bug, make a minimal example wad that allows to reproduce the problem.

(0000239)
Okuplok (reporter)
2010-10-03 13:52

i just uploaded a demo of the bug, seems the mastermind is shooting too high, sergeant have a similar bug aswell.

(0000241)
Torr Samaho (administrator)
2010-10-03 13:56
edited on: 2010-10-03 13:56

Can you tell me the approximate time in the demo when this happens?

(0000242)
Okuplok (reporter)
2010-10-03 13:59

about 3 mins in (at the end of the map) sorry should of said.

(0000244)
unknownna (updater)
2010-10-03 14:28
edited on: 2010-10-03 14:30

The ZDWars unique DECORATE versions of the Doom monsters are different from the originals.

Looking at the code, it's commented:
//Spider Mastermind modified to be w/o hitscan attack

The hitscans are fast-projectiles spawned from 'A_CustomMissile', which then spawn visual bulletpuffs (no bulletpuff damage) at death.

The issue with projectiles exploding, but not dealing any damage has AFAIK, been fixed and will be working properly in 98d.

(0001325)
Okuplok (reporter)
2011-04-10 13:35

i found out what causes this, it's when sv_smartaim is set to 3. it effects chaingunners aswell when they're on a platform above or below you.

(0001326)
Torr Samaho (administrator)
2011-04-10 14:29

> it's when sv_smartaim is set to 3.

That could be the key! Can somebody make a small example wad so that I can reproduce this issue easily?

(0001327)
unknownna (updater)
2011-04-10 15:51
edited on: 2011-04-10 15:59

This is fixed in ZDoom 2.4.0.

It might have been fixed here:

'http://www.zdoom.org/Changelog/1656/files [^]'

* Fixed: sv_smartaim 3 treated the player like a shootable decoration.

(0001336)
Torr Samaho (administrator)
2011-04-10 20:31

Yeah, I think you're right. This binary contains the fix from ZDoom 1656 and should fix the issue.

(0001339)
unknownna (updater)
2011-04-10 22:20

> This binary contains the fix from ZDoom 1656 and should fix the issue.

It fixed that particular issue.

> My fault it's only in multiplayer.
And it happens a lot but not always, you can stand in front of it and it won't be able to hit you.

If true, this sounds like a separate issue.

(0001341)
Torr Samaho (administrator)
2011-04-10 23:10

Can somebody confirm that

> My fault it's only in multiplayer. And it happens a lot but not always, you can stand in front of it and it won't be able to hit you.

happens?

(0001347)
unknownna (updater)
2011-04-11 23:59

> My fault it's only in multiplayer. And it happens a lot but not always, you can stand in front of it and it won't be able to hit you.

It's the same issue. It happens when sv_smartaim is set to 3. But it also happens offline. It's fixed now.

> Confirmed, I've seen this in zdoom wars: when an alcolyte shoots at you, the projectiles hit you but doesn't cause you damage at the beginning. But after some time it causes you normal damage.

It happens when your player body is spawned, even if sv_norespawninvul is set to 1. I wonder if the ACS scripts are causing this behavior to occur.

On a side note, I noticed that a monster's (zinquisitor) gibs (ZInquisitorArm) don't get removed during a map reset online. I'm currently making an example WAD.

(0001357)
Edward-san (developer)
2011-04-12 09:19
edited on: 2011-04-12 10:30

> Confirmed, I've seen this in zdoom wars: when an alcolyte shoots at you, the projectiles hit you but doesn't cause you damage at the beginning. But after some time it causes you normal damage.

My bad. I've discovered that the Doom class has an armor which absorbs all the attacks, but if the player loses the armor (the attacks decrease the armor bonus), he'll be hurt as well. I don't know the other classes' behavior, but I'm sure it doesn't happen for them.

(0001591)
unknownna (updater)
2011-05-10 11:16

> My bad. I've discovered that the Doom class has an armor which absorbs all the attacks, but if the player loses the armor (the attacks decrease the armor bonus), he'll be hurt as well. I don't know the other classes' behavior, but I'm sure it doesn't happen for them.

Alright, we can probably mark this ticket as resolved then.

> On a side note, I noticed that a monster's (zinquisitor) gibs (ZInquisitorArm) don't get removed during a map reset online. I'm currently making an example WAD.

This is a separate issue:

Client-side Actors On Map Reset

(0001592)
Torr Samaho (administrator)
2011-05-10 12:51

> Alright, we can probably mark this ticket as resolved then.

I agree.

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Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-10-02 15:00	Frits	New Issue
2010-10-02 15:02	Frits	Note Added: 0000213
2010-10-02 15:06	Frits	Note Edited: 0000213	View Revisions
2010-10-02 15:13	Frits	Note Edited: 0000213	View Revisions
2010-10-02 19:41	Edward-san	Note Added: 0000217
2010-10-02 19:42	Edward-san	Note Edited: 0000217	View Revisions
2010-10-02 20:50	Torr Samaho	Note Added: 0000219
2010-10-02 20:50	Torr Samaho	Assigned To	=> Torr Samaho
2010-10-02 20:50	Torr Samaho	Status	new => feedback
2010-10-02 20:54	Torr Samaho	Assigned To	Torr Samaho =>
2010-10-03 13:49	Okuplok	File Added: 2010.10.03_13.55.30_av.av20.zip
2010-10-03 13:52	Okuplok	Note Added: 0000239
2010-10-03 13:56	Torr Samaho	Note Added: 0000241
2010-10-03 13:56	Torr Samaho	Note Edited: 0000241	View Revisions
2010-10-03 13:59	Okuplok	Note Added: 0000242
2010-10-03 14:28	unknownna	Note Added: 0000244
2010-10-03 14:30	unknownna	Note Edited: 0000244	View Revisions
2010-10-04 18:58	Frits	Note Added: 0000264
2010-10-04 18:58	Frits	Status	feedback => new
2010-10-04 18:59	Frits	Note Edited: 0000264	View Revisions
2010-10-04 19:01	Frits	Note Deleted: 0000264
2011-04-10 13:35	Okuplok	Note Added: 0001325
2011-04-10 14:29	Torr Samaho	Note Added: 0001326
2011-04-10 14:32	Torr Samaho	Status	new => feedback
2011-04-10 15:50	unknownna	File Added: smartaim_test_01.wad
2011-04-10 15:51	unknownna	Note Added: 0001327
2011-04-10 15:59	unknownna	Note Edited: 0001327	View Revisions
2011-04-10 20:31	Torr Samaho	Note Added: 0001336
2011-04-10 22:20	unknownna	Note Added: 0001339
2011-04-10 22:20	unknownna	Status	feedback => assigned
2011-04-10 23:10	Torr Samaho	Note Added: 0001341
2011-04-11 23:59	unknownna	Note Added: 0001347
2011-04-11 23:59	unknownna	Assigned To	=> Torr Samaho
2011-04-11 23:59	unknownna	Status	assigned => feedback
2011-04-12 00:21	unknownna	File Added: spawnitemex_clientside_test_01.wad
2011-04-12 09:19	Edward-san	Note Added: 0001357
2011-04-12 09:24	Edward-san	Note Edited: 0001357	View Revisions
2011-04-12 10:27	Edward-san	Note Edited: 0001357	View Revisions
2011-04-12 10:30	Edward-san	Note Edited: 0001357	View Revisions
2011-05-10 11:16	unknownna	Note Added: 0001591
2011-05-10 12:51	Torr Samaho	Note Added: 0001592
2011-05-10 12:54	Torr Samaho	Status	feedback => resolved
2011-05-10 12:54	Torr Samaho	Fixed in Version	=> 1.0
2011-05-10 12:54	Torr Samaho	Resolution	open => fixed
2012-06-09 13:22	Torr Samaho	Category	General => Bug
2018-09-30 20:04	Blzut3	Status	resolved => closed

Notes
(0000213) Frits (reporter) 2010-10-02 15:02 edited on: 2010-10-02 15:13	My fault it's only in multiplayer. And it happens a lot but not always, you can stand in front of it and it won't be able to hit you.

(0000217) Edward-san (developer) 2010-10-02 19:41 edited on: 2010-10-02 19:42	Confirmed, I've seen this in zdoom wars: when an alcolyte shoots at you, the projectiles hit you but doesn't cause you damage at the beginning. But after some time it causes you normal damage.

(0000219) Torr Samaho (administrator) 2010-10-02 20:50	I just tried this online on Vanilla Doom map20 and everything worked fine. Who can reproduce this and under which circumstances? Regarding, ZDoom Wars: I have no idea if this is a ZDoom Wars bug or not. If you think it's a Skulltag bug, make a minimal example wad that allows to reproduce the problem.

(0000239) Okuplok (reporter) 2010-10-03 13:52	i just uploaded a demo of the bug, seems the mastermind is shooting too high, sergeant have a similar bug aswell.

(0000241) Torr Samaho (administrator) 2010-10-03 13:56 edited on: 2010-10-03 13:56	Can you tell me the approximate time in the demo when this happens?

(0000242) Okuplok (reporter) 2010-10-03 13:59	about 3 mins in (at the end of the map) sorry should of said.

(0000244) unknownna (updater) 2010-10-03 14:28 edited on: 2010-10-03 14:30	The ZDWars unique DECORATE versions of the Doom monsters are different from the originals. Looking at the code, it's commented: //Spider Mastermind modified to be w/o hitscan attack The hitscans are fast-projectiles spawned from 'A_CustomMissile', which then spawn visual bulletpuffs (no bulletpuff damage) at death. The issue with projectiles exploding, but not dealing any damage has AFAIK, been fixed and will be working properly in 98d.

(0001325) Okuplok (reporter) 2011-04-10 13:35	i found out what causes this, it's when sv_smartaim is set to 3. it effects chaingunners aswell when they're on a platform above or below you.

(0001326) Torr Samaho (administrator) 2011-04-10 14:29	> it's when sv_smartaim is set to 3. That could be the key! Can somebody make a small example wad so that I can reproduce this issue easily?

(0001327) unknownna (updater) 2011-04-10 15:51 edited on: 2011-04-10 15:59	This is fixed in ZDoom 2.4.0. It might have been fixed here: 'http://www.zdoom.org/Changelog/1656/files [^]' * Fixed: sv_smartaim 3 treated the player like a shootable decoration.

(0001336) Torr Samaho (administrator) 2011-04-10 20:31	Yeah, I think you're right. This binary contains the fix from ZDoom 1656 and should fix the issue.

(0001339) unknownna (updater) 2011-04-10 22:20	> This binary contains the fix from ZDoom 1656 and should fix the issue. It fixed that particular issue. > My fault it's only in multiplayer. And it happens a lot but not always, you can stand in front of it and it won't be able to hit you. If true, this sounds like a separate issue.

(0001341) Torr Samaho (administrator) 2011-04-10 23:10	Can somebody confirm that > My fault it's only in multiplayer. And it happens a lot but not always, you can stand in front of it and it won't be able to hit you. happens?

(0001347) unknownna (updater) 2011-04-11 23:59	> My fault it's only in multiplayer. And it happens a lot but not always, you can stand in front of it and it won't be able to hit you. It's the same issue. It happens when sv_smartaim is set to 3. But it also happens offline. It's fixed now. > Confirmed, I've seen this in zdoom wars: when an alcolyte shoots at you, the projectiles hit you but doesn't cause you damage at the beginning. But after some time it causes you normal damage. It happens when your player body is spawned, even if sv_norespawninvul is set to 1. I wonder if the ACS scripts are causing this behavior to occur. On a side note, I noticed that a monster's (zinquisitor) gibs (ZInquisitorArm) don't get removed during a map reset online. I'm currently making an example WAD.

(0001357) Edward-san (developer) 2011-04-12 09:19 edited on: 2011-04-12 10:30	> Confirmed, I've seen this in zdoom wars: when an alcolyte shoots at you, the projectiles hit you but doesn't cause you damage at the beginning. But after some time it causes you normal damage. My bad. I've discovered that the Doom class has an armor which absorbs all the attacks, but if the player loses the armor (the attacks decrease the armor bonus), he'll be hurt as well. I don't know the other classes' behavior, but I'm sure it doesn't happen for them.

(0001591) unknownna (updater) 2011-05-10 11:16	> My bad. I've discovered that the Doom class has an armor which absorbs all the attacks, but if the player loses the armor (the attacks decrease the armor bonus), he'll be hurt as well. I don't know the other classes' behavior, but I'm sure it doesn't happen for them. Alright, we can probably mark this ticket as resolved then. > On a side note, I noticed that a monster's (zinquisitor) gibs (ZInquisitorArm) don't get removed during a map reset online. I'm currently making an example WAD. This is a separate issue: Client-side Actors On Map Reset

(0001592) Torr Samaho (administrator) 2011-05-10 12:51	> Alright, we can probably mark this ticket as resolved then. I agree.

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