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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0004046DoomseekerUIpublic2022-10-16 17:392024-11-03 19:16
ReporterNecrodoom 
Assigned ToZalewa 
PrioritylowSeveritytweakReproducibilityalways
StatusclosedResolutionno change required 
PlatformMicrosoftOSWindowsOS VersionXP/Vista/7
Product Version1.3.3 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0004046: Change prompt when attempting to join servers with missing commercial wad
DescriptionWhen attempting to join a server with a commercial wad that one doesnt own, doomseeker will prompt information about it and also prompt the option of installing freedoom. However, the latter is bad behavior for joining multiplayer servers, as Zandronum will drop the player due to failed protected lump authentication error, which is a rather confusing error to the player. IMO, correct behavior should only have freedoom as a fallback option for singleplayer, and direct the user to an information page about getting a legal copy of the needed doom wad if its a multiplayer server.
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Necrodoom (reporter)
2022-10-16 20:21

 After looking into history a bit, this seems to be rather a different issue where zandronum is more strict on checking the iwad where in the past freedoom wouldve sufficed as a doom2.wad replacement for multiplayer gameplay? Not very sure so this ticket is perhaps not correct.
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Zalewa (developer)
2022-10-22 20:12
edited on: 2022-10-22 20:14

 freedoom should be a valid replacement for the commercial iwads as long as the servers are running mods that replace the iwad maps. Let's say that: if you run a server with gothicdm.wad on MAP01, the server should be joinable both by the players who run with doom2.wad and players who use freedoom as the replacement. However, it is normal to be booted from a server that runs only the plain doom2.wad when trying to join it with freedoom, because freedoom2's MAP01 is different from doom2.wad's MAP01.

In the latter case we can't do much about it. In the former case, which is also the more common case, the player should be able to run with freedoom, so we do the right thing to propose freedoom and offer its installation.
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Zalewa (developer)
2022-10-22 20:25
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direct the user to an information page about getting a legal copy of the needed doom wad

Doomseeker also informs that "the missing file comes from a game that can be purchased", although it indeed doesn't provide any links to guide the user. Do you have any suggestion for a good website for that?
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Necrodoom (reporter)
2022-10-23 15:25

 When i made this ticket i incorrectly made assumptions about why doomseeker downloads freedoom due to the odd error from zandronum which led me to think that freedoom was not a good multiplayer alternative, im sorry about that.

As for a good website for buying the game(s), i dont think theres a one size fits all, with steam, GoG, epic, microsoft all selling direct PC edition with extractable, and i know zandronum automatically detects files found in at least steam and GoG paths.
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Zalewa (developer)
2022-10-23 17:21

 Closing as "no change required".

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- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2022-10-16 17:39 Necrodoom New Issue
2022-10-16 20:21 Necrodoom Note Added: 0022465
2022-10-22 20:12 Zalewa Note Added: 0022466
2022-10-22 20:13 Zalewa Note Edited: 0022466 View Revisions
2022-10-22 20:14 Zalewa Note Edited: 0022466 View Revisions
2022-10-22 20:25 Zalewa Note Added: 0022468
2022-10-22 20:25 Zalewa Assigned To => Zalewa
2022-10-22 20:25 Zalewa Status new => feedback
2022-10-23 15:25 Necrodoom Note Added: 0022469
2022-10-23 15:25 Necrodoom Status feedback => assigned
2022-10-23 17:21 Zalewa Note Added: 0022470
2022-10-23 17:21 Zalewa Status assigned => resolved
2022-10-23 17:21 Zalewa Resolution open => no change required
2024-11-03 19:16 Zalewa Status resolved => closed




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