MantisBT - Doomseeker
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0004046DoomseekerUIpublic2022-10-16 17:392024-11-03 19:16
ReporterNecrodoom 
Assigned ToZalewa 
PrioritylowSeveritytweakReproducibilityalways
StatusclosedResolutionno change required 
PlatformMicrosoftOSWindowsOS VersionXP/Vista/7
Product Version1.3.3 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0004046: Change prompt when attempting to join servers with missing commercial wad
DescriptionWhen attempting to join a server with a commercial wad that one doesnt own, doomseeker will prompt information about it and also prompt the option of installing freedoom. However, the latter is bad behavior for joining multiplayer servers, as Zandronum will drop the player due to failed protected lump authentication error, which is a rather confusing error to the player. IMO, correct behavior should only have freedoom as a fallback option for singleplayer, and direct the user to an information page about getting a legal copy of the needed doom wad if its a multiplayer server.
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Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2022-10-16 17:39NecrodoomNew Issue
2022-10-16 20:21NecrodoomNote Added: 0022465
2022-10-22 20:12ZalewaNote Added: 0022466
2022-10-22 20:13ZalewaNote Edited: 0022466bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=22466#r13753
2022-10-22 20:14ZalewaNote Edited: 0022466bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=22466#r13754
2022-10-22 20:25ZalewaNote Added: 0022468
2022-10-22 20:25ZalewaAssigned To => Zalewa
2022-10-22 20:25ZalewaStatusnew => feedback
2022-10-23 15:25NecrodoomNote Added: 0022469
2022-10-23 15:25NecrodoomStatusfeedback => assigned
2022-10-23 17:21ZalewaNote Added: 0022470
2022-10-23 17:21ZalewaStatusassigned => resolved
2022-10-23 17:21ZalewaResolutionopen => no change required
2024-11-03 19:16ZalewaStatusresolved => closed

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Necrodoom   
2022-10-16 20:21   
After looking into history a bit, this seems to be rather a different issue where zandronum is more strict on checking the iwad where in the past freedoom wouldve sufficed as a doom2.wad replacement for multiplayer gameplay? Not very sure so this ticket is perhaps not correct.
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Zalewa   
2022-10-22 20:12   
(edited on: 2022-10-22 20:14)
freedoom should be a valid replacement for the commercial iwads as long as the servers are running mods that replace the iwad maps. Let's say that: if you run a server with gothicdm.wad on MAP01, the server should be joinable both by the players who run with doom2.wad and players who use freedoom as the replacement. However, it is normal to be booted from a server that runs only the plain doom2.wad when trying to join it with freedoom, because freedoom2's MAP01 is different from doom2.wad's MAP01.

In the latter case we can't do much about it. In the former case, which is also the more common case, the player should be able to run with freedoom, so we do the right thing to propose freedoom and offer its installation.
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Zalewa   
2022-10-22 20:25   
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direct the user to an information page about getting a legal copy of the needed doom wad

Doomseeker also informs that "the missing file comes from a game that can be purchased", although it indeed doesn't provide any links to guide the user. Do you have any suggestion for a good website for that?
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Necrodoom   
2022-10-23 15:25   
When i made this ticket i incorrectly made assumptions about why doomseeker downloads freedoom due to the odd error from zandronum which led me to think that freedoom was not a good multiplayer alternative, im sorry about that.

As for a good website for buying the game(s), i dont think theres a one size fits all, with steam, GoG, epic, microsoft all selling direct PC edition with extractable, and i know zandronum automatically detects files found in at least steam and GoG paths.
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Zalewa   
2022-10-23 17:21   
Closing as "no change required".