0002839: Callvote ban username timeLimit banReason

Notes
(0015675) Ru5tK1ng (updater) 2016-09-21 01:29	For the issue of banning people with similar names, you can ban by IDX in 3.0: 'http://zandronum.com/tracker/view.php?id=1209 [^]' And duplicate names here: 'http://zandronum.com/tracker/view.php?id=144 [^]'

(0015681) lupo90 (reporter) 2016-09-21 11:38	Thank you for your interest. What I was talking about is a users command, not server-admin command. I dont host any doom server and so do 99% of users. So what I think it's strictly necessary very as fast as possible, is a callvote to ban a user, or better an integrated way to choose user by gui in multiplayer menu. Also I have read both articles and I didn't find a way to get a player list with player idxs Also, what Zandronum version use current servers found in DoomSeeker? 2.1 Stable I suppose? Sorry in advance if I misunderstood - I am quite new, but I see actually no way to let people solve the situation when server-admin is not present (which is quite 100% of time if server is not hosted by a user himself)

(0015682) lupo90 (reporter) 2016-09-21 11:42	OK here we are. First match of the day: 'Ukito's Master Of Puppets (mop) Chillax' from germany. The spammer was on yesterday, 2 days ago, and today as well. The match is ruined, everyone is frustrated and quit now or later. Please help us solve this asap.

(0015683) Unknown (reporter) 2016-09-21 13:37 edited on: 2016-09-21 15:51	Normal votekicks already ban the user for 10 minutes, i suggest extending that time to 30 minutes rather than allowing trolls to ban you for 24 hours .

(0015684) FascistCat (reporter) 2016-09-21 20:22 edited on: 2016-09-21 20:23	I think this is prone to being abusable by trolls. An alternative could be to increase the ban time automatically each time a vote reaches an affirmative decision to ban. That timer could be cleared each week or month, etc. in that particular server. Maybe another possibility is to ban a player for the duration of the map (until the round ends or map change).

(0015685) Ru5tK1ng (updater) 2016-09-21 20:48	Meant to comment earlier, but anyway we all see the problems that arise from people abusing 'callvote kick'. Can you imagine how bad it would be if they had access to something like 'callvote ban player x' where x could be minutes, days, months, years? The best idea so far is extending the time beyond 10 minutes in some fashion.

(0015703) Marcaek (reporter) 2016-09-25 15:59	The spammer won't be deterred by extended ban lengths as they have access to some kind of proxy network and allegedly scripts to steal player names. You can get player idx using playerinfo in the console. "So what I think it's strictly necessary very as fast as possible, is a callvote to ban a user, or better an integrated way to choose user by gui in multiplayer menu." I think an improved RCON utility with an better information handling and an actual interface rather than command line would be a great tool for dealing with this stuff, it's just plan a hassle getting idx and other info in a console while people are talking and playing the game and spamming and votekicking the wrong people before you have the chance to intervene. Who would create such a tool?

(0015707) Unknown (reporter) 2016-09-26 15:37 edited on: 2016-09-26 20:59	"allegedly scripts to steal player names" Nope, they're using ZCC, I even tried it once, ZCC allows copying stuff from console, this includes players messages & / or Names . EDIT : Whoever doesn't support this ticket is likely supporting votekicks abuse, I'm pretty sure ^^ .

(0015709) WaTaKiD (updater) 2016-09-26 21:36 edited on: 2016-09-26 21:38	"Whoever doesn't support this ticket is likely supporting votekicks abuse, I'm pretty sure ^^ ." please understand that, as previous people in this ticket have noted: try to imagine the trolls getting their hands on this vote and causing more damage than is already being done while the intention behind suggesting this vote is just, i believe it is not the proper way to alleviate the issue and we should seek other options, such as: not allowing new clients to call a vote immediately:'http://zandronum.com/tracker/view.php?id=2802 [^]' and fixing the oversight mentioned in my note here:'http://zandronum.com/tracker/view.php?id=2838#c15673 [^]' along with making it easier to distinguish between the real deal and their impersonator:'http://zandronum.com/tracker/view.php?id=144 [^]'

(0015710) Unknown (reporter) 2016-09-26 23:11	Oh i'm very sorry, I Confused this with that ticket, didn't pay attention to the op text :S 'http://zandronum.com/tracker/view.php?id=2801 [^]'

(0015847) Ru5tK1ng (updater) 2016-10-09 16:59	Allowing players to specify a ban time is a very, very bad idea. There have been some tickets attended to that help with the current spamming/trolling problem. This isn't one of them.

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Supporters:	lupo90 Unknown
Opponents:	FascistCat

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2016-09-21 00:31	lupo90	New Issue
2016-09-21 01:29	Ru5tK1ng	Note Added: 0015675
2016-09-21 11:38	lupo90	Note Added: 0015681
2016-09-21 11:42	lupo90	Note Added: 0015682
2016-09-21 13:37	Unknown	Note Added: 0015683
2016-09-21 15:51	Unknown	Note Edited: 0015683	View Revisions
2016-09-21 20:22	FascistCat	Note Added: 0015684
2016-09-21 20:23	FascistCat	Note Edited: 0015684	View Revisions
2016-09-21 20:48	Ru5tK1ng	Note Added: 0015685
2016-09-25 15:59	Marcaek	Note Added: 0015703
2016-09-26 15:37	Unknown	Note Added: 0015707
2016-09-26 15:38	Unknown	Note Edited: 0015707	View Revisions
2016-09-26 20:59	Unknown	Note Edited: 0015707	View Revisions
2016-09-26 21:36	WaTaKiD	Note Added: 0015709
2016-09-26 21:37	WaTaKiD	Note Edited: 0015709	View Revisions
2016-09-26 21:38	WaTaKiD	Note Edited: 0015709	View Revisions
2016-09-26 23:11	Unknown	Note Added: 0015710
2016-10-09 16:59	Ru5tK1ng	Note Added: 0015847
2016-10-09 16:59	Ru5tK1ng	Status	new => closed
2016-10-09 16:59	Ru5tK1ng	Resolution	open => no change required

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