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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0000227Zandronum[All Projects] Suggestionpublic2010-12-07 03:572010-12-14 16:04
Reportertsukiyomaru0 
Assigned ToEruanna 
PrioritynoneSeveritytweakReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusclosedResolutiondenied 
PlatformMicrosoftOSWindowsOS VersionXP/Vista/7
Product Version98d 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0000227: Flag to force OpenGL users into the software user's freelook limits.
DescriptionEven thought there is a way to disable freelook, it would make some mods/games less interesting. But that's not it. The thing is that OpenGL users can "cheat by looking all the way up or all the way down, reaching players that can't look at them in shafts, chimeys, tight places, etc.
Steps To ReproduceIt would basically be a DMFlag/Server side command that would deal with the following client flag on everyone:
"cl_disallowfullpitch"
Additional InformationThis is essential for balance of the game when not all players have OpenGL.
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User avatar (0000712)
TIHan (reporter)
2010-12-10 22:10

 I don't see this happening. I'm sure everyone today has a graphics card that supports OpenGL that is good enough to run DM, TDM, CTF levels. It's almost 2011 and you are telling me some people still can't run any application in OpenGL?
User avatar (0000722)
Edward-san (developer)
2010-12-10 22:45
edited on: 2010-12-10 22:46

 Why not?
Maybe those ones has so much old machines that they should buy something new, but don't have the necessary money, even if it's "cheap" (like 300 € or something).
User avatar (0000723)
TIHan (reporter)
2010-12-11 00:41

 'http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187099&Tpk=gts%20250 [^]'

This is assuming you have a PCI Express Motherboard.

'http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150433&cm_re=agp-_-14-150-433-_-Product [^]' Here is a AGP.

Save $20 a week for a month and you should be good.
User avatar (0000724)
Edward-san (developer)
2010-12-11 00:51

 Well I can say "ok, that does the trick" if I'd like to have a pc desktop, but what about a notebook?
User avatar (0000725)
Eruanna (reporter)
2010-12-11 02:54

 The advantage of opengl users over software users really isn't that great.
User avatar (0000733)
Eruanna (reporter)
2010-12-14 16:04
edited on: 2010-12-14 16:09

 Closing this.

The advantage an OpenGL user has with the extra freelook is quite marginal, at best.

1) Auto-aim can compensate for this, with the exception of railgun weapons, which with the variety of weapons available anyhow, only makes a real difference in insta-gib matches.
2) It is extremely rare to ever see or have player on-top-of-player anyhow.
3) OpenGL is quite playable on modest hardware. If it isn't, there are drivers and wrappers available that could help.
4) Even if this were implemented, it would not do much to solve the "advantage" issue, as the OpenGL user can still see a lot more at extreme pitches than a Software user due to the way y-shearing is handled.

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- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-12-07 03:57 tsukiyomaru0 New Issue
2010-12-07 06:08 Eruanna Priority high => none
2010-12-07 06:08 Eruanna Severity major => tweak
2010-12-10 22:10 TIHan Note Added: 0000712
2010-12-10 22:45 Edward-san Note Added: 0000722
2010-12-10 22:46 Edward-san Note Edited: 0000722 View Revisions
2010-12-11 00:41 TIHan Note Added: 0000723
2010-12-11 00:51 Edward-san Note Added: 0000724
2010-12-11 02:54 Eruanna Note Added: 0000725
2010-12-14 16:04 Eruanna Note Added: 0000733
2010-12-14 16:04 Eruanna Status new => closed
2010-12-14 16:04 Eruanna Assigned To => Eruanna
2010-12-14 16:04 Eruanna Resolution open => denied
2010-12-14 16:09 Eruanna Note Edited: 0000733 View Revisions




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