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0000227Zandronum[All Projects] Suggestionpublic2010-12-07 03:572010-12-14 16:04
Reportertsukiyomaru0 
Assigned ToEruanna 
PrioritynoneSeveritytweakReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusclosedResolutiondenied 
PlatformMicrosoftOSWindowsOS VersionXP/Vista/7
Product Version98d 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0000227: Flag to force OpenGL users into the software user's freelook limits.
DescriptionEven thought there is a way to disable freelook, it would make some mods/games less interesting. But that's not it. The thing is that OpenGL users can "cheat by looking all the way up or all the way down, reaching players that can't look at them in shafts, chimeys, tight places, etc.
Steps To ReproduceIt would basically be a DMFlag/Server side command that would deal with the following client flag on everyone:
"cl_disallowfullpitch"
Additional InformationThis is essential for balance of the game when not all players have OpenGL.
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Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2010-12-07 03:57tsukiyomaru0New Issue
2010-12-07 06:08EruannaPriorityhigh => none
2010-12-07 06:08EruannaSeveritymajor => tweak
2010-12-10 22:10TIHanNote Added: 0000712
2010-12-10 22:45Edward-sanNote Added: 0000722
2010-12-10 22:46Edward-sanNote Edited: 0000722bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=722#r336
2010-12-11 00:41TIHanNote Added: 0000723
2010-12-11 00:51Edward-sanNote Added: 0000724
2010-12-11 02:54EruannaNote Added: 0000725
2010-12-14 16:04EruannaNote Added: 0000733
2010-12-14 16:04EruannaStatusnew => closed
2010-12-14 16:04EruannaAssigned To => Eruanna
2010-12-14 16:04EruannaResolutionopen => denied
2010-12-14 16:09EruannaNote Edited: 0000733bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=733#r343

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(0000712)
TIHan   
2010-12-10 22:10   
I don't see this happening. I'm sure everyone today has a graphics card that supports OpenGL that is good enough to run DM, TDM, CTF levels. It's almost 2011 and you are telling me some people still can't run any application in OpenGL?
(0000722)
Edward-san   
2010-12-10 22:45   
(edited on: 2010-12-10 22:46)
Why not?
Maybe those ones has so much old machines that they should buy something new, but don't have the necessary money, even if it's "cheap" (like 300 € or something).
(0000723)
TIHan   
2010-12-11 00:41   
'http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187099&Tpk=gts%20250 [^]'

This is assuming you have a PCI Express Motherboard.

'http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150433&cm_re=agp-_-14-150-433-_-Product [^]' Here is a AGP.

Save $20 a week for a month and you should be good.
(0000724)
Edward-san   
2010-12-11 00:51   
Well I can say "ok, that does the trick" if I'd like to have a pc desktop, but what about a notebook?
(0000725)
Eruanna   
2010-12-11 02:54   
The advantage of opengl users over software users really isn't that great.
(0000733)
Eruanna   
2010-12-14 16:04   
(edited on: 2010-12-14 16:09)
Closing this.

The advantage an OpenGL user has with the extra freelook is quite marginal, at best.

1) Auto-aim can compensate for this, with the exception of railgun weapons, which with the variety of weapons available anyhow, only makes a real difference in insta-gib matches.
2) It is extremely rare to ever see or have player on-top-of-player anyhow.
3) OpenGL is quite playable on modest hardware. If it isn't, there are drivers and wrappers available that could help.
4) Even if this were implemented, it would not do much to solve the "advantage" issue, as the OpenGL user can still see a lot more at extreme pitches than a Software user due to the way y-shearing is handled.