0003904: Zandronum testing windows seperated archives

Notes
(0021759) WubTheCaptain (reporter) 2021-09-24 13:52 edited on: 2021-09-24 16:02	An example download URL:'https://zandronum.com/downloads/testing/3.1/ZandroDev3.1-210919-1948windows-x64.7z [^]' src/plugins/zandronum/zandronumbinaries.cpp: The 64-bit executable is still named zandronum.exe, so ZANDRONUM_BINARY_NAME does not need to be touched. $ 7z l /tmp/ZandroDev3.1-210919-1948windows-x64.7z 7-Zip [64] 16.02 : Copyright (c) 1999-2016 Igor Pavlov : 2016-05-21 p7zip Version 16.02 (locale=en_US.UTF-8,Utf16=on,HugeFiles=on,64 bits,4 CPUs Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (306A9),ASM,AES-NI) Scanning the drive for archives: 1 file, 11662888 bytes (12 MiB) Listing archive: /tmp/ZandroDev3.1-210919-1948windows-x64.7z -- Path = /tmp/ZandroDev3.1-210919-1948windows-x64.7z Type = 7z Physical Size = 11662888 Headers Size = 319 Method = LZMA2:24 BCJ Solid = + Blocks = 2 Date Time Attr Size Compressed Name ------------------- ----- ------------ ------------ ------------------------ 2021-09-19 20:23:17 ....A 245157 7954280 brightmaps.pk3 2021-09-19 20:23:17 ....A 57256 skulltag_actors.pk3 2021-09-19 20:29:52 ....A 40128512 zandronum.pdb 2021-09-19 20:23:17 ....A 843180 zandronum.pk3 2016-10-27 18:38:16 ....A 1503232 3708289 fmodex64.dll 2021-09-19 20:29:50 ....A 9138688 zandronum.exe ------------------- ----- ------------ ------------ ------------------------ 2021-09-19 20:29:52 51916025 11662569 6 files Note the 64-bit distributions of Zandronum use the 7z format while 32-bit distributions use ZIP. From a quick glace, Wadseeker's unarchive.cpp can already handle both 7z and ZIP formats. Note previous testing builds before Zandronum 3.1 (210919-1948) do not retroactively have 64-bit builds. There's currently no fallback to download a 32-bit windows.zip if windows-x64.7z is missing. (I also note there's probably a bug with compiling for Windows using GCC on Windows; there's no Q_OS_LINUX check, only a GCC specific __x64_64__ which sets the TESTING_BINARY_URL to GNU/Linux binaries.)

(0021760) WubTheCaptain (reporter) 2021-09-24 14:54	Apparently Zandronum 3.1 (210919-1948) also started using the linux-x64.tgz filename for releases, instead of the former linux-x86_64.tar.bz2. Doomseeker's code currently only supports the latter. Kind of a nightmare to have these inconsistencies.

(0021763) WubTheCaptain (reporter) 2021-09-24 16:20 edited on: 2021-09-24 16:20	Quote from WubTheCaptain Apparently Zandronum 3.1 (210919-1948) also started using the linux-x64.tgz filename for releases, instead of the former linux-x86_64.tar.bz2. Doomseeker's code currently only supports the latter. Kind of a nightmare to have these inconsistencies. New issue: 0003907

(0021766) WubTheCaptain (reporter) 2021-09-24 16:50	By the way, the current state (as of Doomseeker 1.3.2), what I believe OP is saying, is that Doomseeker can only download a windows.zip on Windows, which has 32-bit binaries. (Doomseeker on GNU/Linux already has 32-bit/64-bit Zandronum testing binary download capabilities.) The solution in 0003905:0021761 is not complete and I think overall 0003905 should need to be solved before this issue.

(0021767) WubTheCaptain (reporter) 2021-09-24 17:00 edited on: 2021-09-24 17:52	In reality, I would actually hope Zandronum devs to drop support for 32-bit Windows entirely, and replace Windows binaries in future windows.zip with 64-bit Windows binaries. That way Doomseeker wouldn't need to change really anything. Besides, 32-bit Windows has been EOL since Windows 10 build 2004; support for those ended in May 11, 2021 (add +1 year for Enterprise, Education SKUs). (Don't get me started with Windows 8.1 having extended support until January 10, 2023. Please.)

(0021775) Zalewa (developer) 2021-09-27 11:39	For the end user there should technically be no difference whether they use the 32-bit or the 64-bit binaries. Windows won't like if the .exe and the .dlls are of different "bitness", but if they're all the same then the program will run as usual. The limitation with 32-bit processes is that they can't acquire as much memory as if they were 64-bit, but for Zandronum this hasn't ever been a problem, at least afaik. That said, due to the EOL issue that Wub has pointed out, we can't ignore this matter completely. I'm acknowledging this as a thing to do. Doomseeker is also released as 32-bit binaries only, by the way.

(0021780) WubTheCaptain (reporter) 2021-09-29 18:10 edited on: 2021-09-29 18:10	Quote from Zalewa Doomseeker is also released as 32-bit binaries only, by the way. On Windows (and maybe MacOS too, but I am not familiar), yes. For additional clarification, the DRD Team Debian Package Repository has both "i386" (32-bit) and "amd64" (64-bit) binaries released for GNU/Linux.

(0021794) Blzut3 (administrator) 2021-10-29 01:46	Windows 10 21H1 32-bit does exist. Likely that 21H2 and thus the next LTSC will also exist. Although I guess the 21H2 LTSC might have a shorter support period than 1809 which goes to 2029. Granted 32-bit Windows 10 is bit of a joke, but I'm all about these obscure facts so had to "um actually." Not saying we shouldn't consider releasing 64-bit Doomseeker at this point, just saying that the end of 32-bit Windows is still a long ways off. Given that shipping 32-bit binaries, while getting less common, is still a thing today so it's unlikely Microsoft will be removing the WoW64 support anytime soon. Linux 32-bit packages will be supported until 18.04 goes EOL. macOS already dropped 32-bit binary support so that's 64-bit.

Only registered users can voice their support. Click here to register, or here to log in.
Supporters:	No one explicitly supports this issue yet.
Opponents:	No one explicitly opposes this issue yet.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2021-09-21 00:17	doomjoshuaboy	New Issue
2021-09-21 00:17	doomjoshuaboy	File Added: msedge_g6j3zioap5.png
2021-09-24 13:52	WubTheCaptain	Note Added: 0021759
2021-09-24 13:52	WubTheCaptain	Note Edited: 0021759	View Revisions
2021-09-24 14:00	WubTheCaptain	Note Edited: 0021759	View Revisions
2021-09-24 14:54	WubTheCaptain	Note Added: 0021760
2021-09-24 16:02	WubTheCaptain	Note Edited: 0021759	View Revisions
2021-09-24 16:20	WubTheCaptain	Note Added: 0021763
2021-09-24 16:20	WubTheCaptain	Note Edited: 0021763	View Revisions
2021-09-24 16:50	WubTheCaptain	Note Added: 0021766
2021-09-24 17:00	WubTheCaptain	Note Added: 0021767
2021-09-24 17:08	WubTheCaptain	Note Added: 0021768
2021-09-24 17:51	WubTheCaptain	Note Edited: 0021767	View Revisions
2021-09-24 17:52	WubTheCaptain	Note Deleted: 0021768
2021-09-24 17:52	WubTheCaptain	Note Edited: 0021767	View Revisions
2021-09-27 11:39	Zalewa	Note Added: 0021775
2021-09-27 11:39	Zalewa	Status	new => acknowledged
2021-09-29 18:10	WubTheCaptain	Note Added: 0021780
2021-09-29 18:10	WubTheCaptain	Note Edited: 0021780	View Revisions
2021-10-29 01:46	Blzut3	Note Added: 0021794

Relationships