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I cannot take this BD save game bug anymore
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:18 pm
by justgirouxit
This save game corruption thing with Brutal Doom is out of control. While at first it only happened with TNT and Plutonia, it's happening with all downloaded wads now. The bug seems to start once I get far into the game, around level 20. I can't take it. This is beyond frustrating, the fact that I have to keep skipping levels because of save game corruptions. Is there anything I can do, ANYTHING to stop this (apart from removing BD). I've already sent a PM to the Brutal Doom dev with no response, and I don't know what to do. ugh.
RE: I cannot take this BD save game bug anymore
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:24 pm
by Marcaek
Are you changing anything in your setup during your playthrough? WAD order or settings? What versions of the WADs are you using?
RE: I cannot take this BD save game bug anymore
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:27 pm
by Da Spadger
Sounds like your save files were... brutalized.
RE: I cannot take this BD save game bug anymore
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:27 pm
by Tux
IIRC game save corruption is impossible in Zandronum.
Try resetting your config (just delete it)
RE: I cannot take this BD save game bug anymore
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:28 pm
by justgirouxit
Da Spadger wrote:
Sounds like your save files were... brutalized.
YEAAAAAAAH
Marcaek wrote:
Are you changing anything in your setup during your playthrough? WAD order or settings? What versions of the WADs are you using?
Nope. Just using the newest version of BD (v18) in the autoload of the .ini. It's currently happened with TNT, Plutonia, and Scythe (the only wads I've gotten to level 20+ on Zandronum), so I can only assume it's going to happen with others. I got all my WADs from either Steam (commercial Doom games) or doomworld.
Tux wrote:
IIRC game save corruption is impossible in Zandronum.
Try resetting your config (just delete it)
Delete Zandronum?
RE: I cannot take this BD save game bug anymore
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:55 pm
by Xangi
Remove Brutal Doom.
No really, if it's breaking things and you don't know why, the way to fix it is to remove it. It's not like there aren't other mods. Just complete the wads you're currently playing through and remove it.
RE: I cannot take this BD save game bug anymore
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:00 pm
by Marcaek
That's a poor solution though, if he'd like to continue playing without experiencing issues. Try over on the ZDoom forums?
RE: I cannot take this BD save game bug anymore
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:12 pm
by Tux
Tux wrote:
IIRC game save corruption is impossible in Zandronum.
Try resetting your config (just delete it)
Delete Zandronum?
No. In your zandrobando folder, there should be file named zandronum-accountname.ini, like zandronum-Tom.ini if your account name is Tom. The file may be hidden, tho.
RE: I cannot take this BD save game bug anymore
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:26 pm
by Ænima
This is probably my third time saying this ...
http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.p ... 3#pid41713
It's not a "corruption" of your savegame. It's Brutal Doom having tons and tons of both actors and scripts in one map at the same time and trying to load the exact states of all of that stuff from a savegame can sometimes cause overflows or errors of some sort which crash the game. I'm not a dev, but I'm sure that if you posted the exact crash report, a Zandronum developer would give you the exact same answer.
RE: I cannot take this BD save game bug anymore
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:08 pm
by justgirouxit
Deleting the .ini did absolutely nothing. I'm just pissed how there is no fix to this whatsoever. Has anyone else ever experienced this? Please tell me I'm not the only one.
RE: I cannot take this BD save game bug anymore
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:13 pm
by Ænima
RE: I cannot take this BD save game bug anymore
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:17 pm
by ibm5155
justgirouxit wrote:
Da Spadger wrote:
Sounds like your save files were... brutalized.
YEAAAAAAAH
Marcaek wrote:
Are you changing anything in your setup during your playthrough? WAD order or settings? What versions of the WADs are you using?
Nope. Just using the newest version of BD (v18) in the autoload of the .ini....
Wait, so you updated the Brutal Doom version? if yes that must be the problem, since it´s a different wad comparing to the ones saved on the savegame
RE: I cannot take this BD save game bug anymore
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:25 pm
by justgirouxit
No, you read that wrong. I've been using the same version of Brutal Doom the whole time, v18.
RE: I cannot take this BD save game bug anymore
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:33 pm
by Catastrophe
Use Zdoom to play brutal doom offline, use Zandronum to play it online.
RE: I cannot take this BD save game bug anymore
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:38 pm
by ibm5155
hmm I´ll check with sgt mark what´s happening...
RE: I cannot take this BD save game bug anymore
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:46 pm
by Tux
ibm5155 wrote:
hmm I´ll check with sgt mark what´s happening...
>implying he will respond
RE: I cannot take this BD save game bug anymore
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:47 pm
by justgirouxit
Catastrophe wrote:
Use Zdoom to play brutal doom offline, use Zandronum to play it online.
I would do that, but the free look screen warping bugs me too much.
Tux wrote:
ibm5155 wrote:
hmm I´ll check with sgt mark what´s happening...
>implying he will respond
THIS.
RE: I cannot take this BD save game bug anymore
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:47 pm
by Ænima
Then use GZDoom.
RE: I cannot take this BD save game bug anymore
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:52 pm
by ibm5155
Tux wrote:
ibm5155 wrote:
hmm I´ll check with sgt mark what´s happening...
>implying he will respond
I´ll not pm here, I´ll just talk with him on a place where most of people stay on the internet :)
RE: I cannot take this BD save game bug anymore
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:34 am
by Sergeant_Mark_IV
That's weird. This bug was never supposed to happen when you are using Brutal Doom without mutators or anything like it. I personally never found this.
I did a lot of code fixes and fixed all yellow and red lines warning startup error messages on last test version. Delete all your save files and try playing it.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/b3s1c ... ltests.zip
If this doesn't works for you. Then I'm sorry. But Brutal Doom's gameplay was always planned to make pistol starts easier anyway, so just restart playing the game on rifle start brüwtal hardcore style, like how I always do.