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Handy download links:

• [BE] - silverspring_ctf_rc-02-45.pk3 ---- RELEASE CANDIDATE V2 - 12/09/2014
  [BE] - hereticcompetpatch_wep-obt-v1.pk3 ---- RELEASE V1 - 12/09/2014
  [BE] - silverspringhud_v1-1.pk3 ---- RELEASE V1 - 11/26/2014
  Dropbox - SilverspringCTF_2-WayTextures_V4.pk3 --- RELEASE V4 - 11/18/2014
  
  Old Versions
  [BE] - silverspringctf_test_v1.pk3 ---- TEST VERSION V1 - 11/26/2014

Features:

• - 50 2-way CTF maps, each and every one of them compatible with One-Flag CTF (40/40 complete! + 05 bonus maps + 10 extra maps pending);
  - New graphics (CONBACK, M_HTIC, TITLEPIC, CREDIT);
  - 203 new flats and textures (87 flats - 28 being animation frames + 116 textures);
  - Obituaries for all weapons, explosive pods and timebombs (work flawlessly offline, intermittently online, don't know why) (Complete!);
  - New flag sprites; (Complete!)
  - New medal graphics; (Complete!)
  - A new HUD. (Complete!)
  - Weapon balance mod ( First iteration - Ethereal Arrows now deal double damage and have double speed)

Pending:

• - 05 extra community maps (0/5 complete)

Spoiler: Map List ----- (slot: name - size), kinda big (Open)

• Episode 1 - City of the Damned Theme (Complete!)
  
  2W01: - Waterworks --- Medium
  2W02: - Citadels --- Large
  2W03: - Pathways --- Small
  2W04: - Altars --- Large
  2W05: - The Courtyard --- Small
  2W06: - Twin Docks --- Medium
  2W07: - The Pit --- Large
  2W08: - A Game of Thrones --- Small not as badass as it sounds
  2W09: - Tower Siege --- Medium
  2W10: - The Courtyard - Turbo Edition --- Small
  
  Episode 2 - Hell's Maw Theme (Complete!)
  
  2W11: - Volcanic Crossing --- Medium
  2W12: - Patio --- Small
  2W13: - Freezing Hot --- Large
  2W14: - Crossfire --- Small
  2W15: - Cauldron --- Small
  2W16: - Scorched Hills --- Small
  2W17: - The Glacier --- Large
  2W18: - The River of Fire --- Medium
  2W19: - Outskirts --- Medium
  2W20: - Caldera --- Large
  
  Episode 3 - The Dome of D'Sparil Theme (Complete!)
  
  2W21: - The Aqueduct --- Medium
  2W22: - Confluence --- Large
  2W23: - Riverside --- Small
  2W24: - Inner Garden --- Medium
  2W25: - Surrounded --- Medium
  2W26: - The Divination Pool --- Medium
  2W27: - Junction --- Small
  2W28: - Water Temple --- Small
  2W29: - Pass --- Small
  2W30: - The Trench --- Large
  
  Episode 4 - Downtown Silverspring - City Theme (Complete!)
  
  2W31: - Block Wars --- Small
  2W32: - Square of the Damned --- Small
  2W33: - Apartments --- Medium
  2W34: - Roundabout --- Medium
  2W35: - The Palace --- Medium
  2W36: - The Cage --- Medium
  2W37: - Atrium --- Small
  2W38: - The Graveyard --- Large
  2W39: - The Grand Cathedral --- Large
  2W40: - Valador's Legacy --- Small Probably the smallest map I've ever made
  
  Bonus Maps - Some nice edits and original versions of 2 maps (05 for the moment)
  
  2W41: - Citadel Core --- Small
  2W42: - Altar Run --- Medium
  2W43: - Indoors --- Small
  2W44: - The Mighty Glacier --- Excessive
  2W45: - Confluence - Confusing Edition --- Excessive
  
  Community Maps (0/5 complete)
  
  2W46: - N/A
  2W47: - N/A
  2W48: - N/A
  2W49: - N/A
  2W50: - N/A

Creating episode 2 and episode 3 themed maps is deceptively difficult. At least for me.

As the project now nears completion, I've opened a few slots for you guys to participate as well!

Spoiler: Map Contribution Slots (Open)

• Episode 5 - Community Contributions (Varied)
  
  2W46: - <open>
  2W47: - <open>
  2W48: - <open>
  2W49: - <open>
  2W50: - <open>

I plan to release the textures and flats in a 4-way+ofctf texture pack when this gets released, so everyone can use them.

Spoiler: The new HUD in action (Open)

Spoiler: Screenshot - SP (Open)

Spoiler: Screenshot - CTF (Open)

Spoiler: 12 screenshots for your pleasure - 3 new! (Open)

Episode 1

Spoiler: 2W05 - The Courtyard (Open)

Spoiler: 2W08 - A Game of Thrones (Open)

Spoiler: 2W09 - Tower Siege (Open)

Episode 2

Spoiler: 2W15 - Cauldron (Open)

Spoiler: 2W17 - The Glacier (Open)

Spoiler: 2W18 - The River of Fire (Open)

Episode 3

Spoiler: 2W25 - Surrounded (Open)

Spoiler: 2W27 - Junction (Open)

Spoiler: 2W28 - Water Temple (Open)

Episode 4

Spoiler: 2W33 - Apartments (Open)

Spoiler: 2W37 - Atrium (Open)

Spoiler: 2W39 - The Grand Cathedral (Open)

I really liked how the towers turned out in 2W09 for some reason.
Not everyone has Heretic, so here's a handy link - Heretic: Shadow of the Serpent Riders - Steam Store
Christmas sale is coming boyos

Looks amazing!

Beautiful screens, I'm not fan of Heretic, but this make me want to play it again.

>Heretic
>One flag CTF
>32 playable maps

You're insane :P This looks to be a massive undertaking and I'm looking forward to seeing how this plays.

Will def be looking at this

[quote=Marcaek]You're insane :P This looks to be a massive undertaking and I'm looking forward to seeing how this plays.[/quote]

Been working on it for 2 months, averaging a map every two days. I'm at the 4th revision of the texture pack, with a few more textures to be added, and the past few days were spent compiling everything and making the graphics.

Yeah, it's been quite the work, but I'm genuinely satisfied with how it's going!

I'm not sure about how it plays, because I haven't been able to actually sit down and get people to test, specially because not many people have/like Heretic, so my only testing so far has been one or two people take a look around and point out a few things.

I think I may have added too much health/armor/ammo to a few maps, while I may have removed too much on others to the point of brutality.

Also, some maps may be too easy to defend or trivial to attack.

My main focus is on 2-way standard CTF, but the maps are being built to work with One-Flag CTF as well. If, out of these 40, 15~20 play well, I'll have fulfilled my mission.

HOLLIIEEE SHIIIIIEEET, I'm in if you need some... assistance.

[quote=Decay]Hopefully they don't suffer too much from your usual huge-ass map custom![/quote]

I think I managed to get it under control this time, only 2W17 - The Glacier ended up Joseph-sized imo. Old term is ooold. That pic up there? that's just mid.

2W09 - Tower Siege, however, almost spiraled out of control, and I actually had to ditch the entire first iteration of the map (except the prototype of the towers), because it was going to end up bigger than Doom Center. Two castles and a full city in-between!

[quote=Deadon]I'm in if you need some... assistance.[/quote]

It's a bit of a personal challenge, to see if I can get something done, so I'm not taking help for the moment. You eagerness, however, has been noted!

I was thinking of having an early, 30-map build hosted on [BE] to see how it plays so far. What do you guys think?

Project update - The medals are finished! At least the first iteration.

I'll bundle them with the HUD, which will come in a separate file from the map pack, so people can choose whether or not to load them.

Spoiler: Here's a preview - All 21 of them! (Open)

I think most of them turned out alright, but a few might be too big, or the outline too pronounced.

In order of appearance, left to right, from the first row:

Capture! - Defense! - Assist! - Termination! - Tag! - Victory! - Perfect!
Fisting! - Accuracy! - Precision! - Impressive! - Most Impressive! - Spam! - Llama!
First Frag! - Excellent! - Incredible! - Domination! - Total Domination! - You Fail It! - Your Skill Is Not Enough!

Notes:
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• - I wanted to avoid using a team color for the flags on the ctf medals, but the only other option was black, so white it goes;
  - I think I screwed up with the Defense medal, but all other attempts ended up too cluttered or confusing;
  - I'm specially satisfied with the Victory/Perfect! medals. Heretic's Small Pillar makes for a fine little trophy; All it needed was a pair of handles and a paint job
  - I didn't know what to put for Impressive/Most Impressive, so that's what came out;
  - D'Sparil is a filthy spammer, with his teleports and minion spam, so it only made sense;
  - Excelent/Incredible! ended up too similar - maybe if I recolor the skull on the latter?
  - The Total Domination medal ended up SO METAL.

What do you guys think? Your feedback is appreciated.

8 maps and the HUD, and then we're set!

In my opinion these medals compede with the normal medals!
You make incredible things, keep it up!

this looks like an extremely high quality project all around. maps look gorgeous, medals look awesome.

This is the most amazing thing I've seen for Heretic ever.

Structure
- Map Configuration: Vanilla Heretic.
- Gamemodes: While the focus is on 2-way standard ctf, all maps must be compatible with one-flag CTF.
- Building standards: White flag exactly at 0,0 height irrelevant, my ocd thanks you and I've been avoiding placing the Firemace - use the Hellstaff instead.
- Extra: No scripting. No ACS - just standard features.

Resources
- Graphics and Music: standard (IWAD) tracks and skies.
- Textures: standard textures plus the Silverspring 2-Way texture pack.
- DECORATE: standard objects, plus objects 97 (Red Key Gizmo) and 98 (Silver/White Key Gizmo). Not included in the texture pack, that's texture/flat-only.
- Extra: Avoid creating extra routes accessible only by jumping/crouching. While they are allowed, keep them to a minimum.
I'm finishing up the HUD, and when I do, I'm going to release the first version, with 30 maps, and have it hosted for feedback. If you guys see anything wrong - wonky item/decoration placement, structural imbalance, texture misalignments - feel free to post here or PM me about it.

Project update - The HUD is complete! hud_scale 1 is highly recommended.

I've finally learned how2sbarinfo, and I think the result is satisfactory.

Spoiler: Screenshot - SP (Open)

Spoiler: Screenshot - CTF (Open)

2w06 - Twin Docks.

It will be bundled with the medals. It's called Silvespring HUD for it was made because of this project, but it's not exclusive to this project - I'll post a download link shortly, just putting the fine details.

It's fully functional - there's a kill counter that shows up above the inventory for deathmatch and deathmatch-related gamemodes (possession, lms, terminator), there's a counter for secondary ammo above the primary ammo display, there's even a display for runes just to the left of the ammo counter. The keys go under the inventory. Still trying to get the AirTime, SavePercent and AmmoCapacity counters to work, though. Also, the Green and Gold score counters always showed up, even when the teams themselves were disabled, so they're disabled for now.
Say your project has extra keys (red and silver are popular and logical choices) - a minor edit to the right side of the hud will give you enough space without breaking the visuals. Or, maybe you want to display the weapon on the HUD - a few IsSelected cases should be enough. Maybe you've got better background images, or maybe you just didn't like it and want to start your own HUD - go on ahead and twist it or use it as a reference.
Anything I forgot? Should I make this the normal hud and make another, even more minimalist hud as fullscreen?
What do you guys think? Your feedback is appreciated.

Notice - The servers are up! Download links here and on the first post!

So, the HUD is finally complete, and I've uploaded a 32-map test version. There are two servers up, if you guys want to take a look:

---- One for standard 2-way CTF and another for One-flag CTF.

• :: [BE] Montreal :: HERETIC - Silverspring CTF! 2Way-CTF PUB Test
  :: [BE] Montreal :: HERETIC - Silverspring CTF! One-Flag CTF PUB Test

If they're down, just send me a message and I'll try putting them back up.
If you guys find anything wrong in there - texture misalignment, wonky item/decoration distribution, etc - don't hesitate to tell me, by posting here, PM, IRC - your call.

Development will continue as usual - 7 maps to go!
The extra 10 guest maps are not restricted to this project's deadline - which is by Christmas - they'll be all added together to the compilation when they're all done.

Handy download links:

• [BE] - silverspringctf_test_v1.pk3 ---- TEST VERSION V1 - 11/26/2014
  [BE] - silverspringhud_v1-1.pk3 ---- RELEASE V1 - 11/26/2014
  Dropbox - SilverspringCTF_2-WayTextures_V4.pk3 --- RELEASE V4 - 11/18/2014

Anything I forgot, bugs to report - drop a message.

You've got an extra http: on the first link

Joseph Hicks wrote:

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[url=http://http://www.[bad site]/download?file=silverspringctf_test_v1.pk3][BE] - silverspringctf_test_v1.pk3[/url]

[BE] - silverspringctf_test_v1.pk3 Fixed link

I'm really looking forward to trying this out on a server... I'll try to get some games going later!

Also I think I still have a couple really old Hexen CTF maps, if you start working on Hexen CTF let me know and I might fix them up if you're interested. Strife CTF sounds cool too!

EDIT: side note, if you do make hexen CTF note that the fighter will be a little bit of a challenge because the only thing that translates on him is his belt.

[quote=jwaffe]
You've got an extra http: on the first link

[quote=Joseph Hicks] [/quote][/quote]

You're right! Links fixed! That's what I get trying to post stuff 3 in the morning. Thanks a lot!

[quote=jwaffe]I'm really looking forward to trying this out on a server... I'll try to get some games going later![/quote]

Oh, please do - these maps have minimal testing - considering the number of maps involved, opening the server to the public and asking for feedback seemed like a sound choice. The only "testing" they got were me with some bots.

I was thinking about priv servers, but online Heretic games don't seem to have anywhere near the popularity of Doom games so I opened then to the public.

[quote=jwaffe]Also I think I still have a couple really old Hexen CTF maps, if you start working on Hexen CTF let me know and I might fix them up if you're interested. Strife CTF sounds cool too![/quote]

If I do, I'll probably open 10 guest map slots just like this one, so your maps will be surely welcome! If you've got more than 10, that won't be a problem, we can always open up more slots. Strife CTF has been on the back of my mind for quite a while now, but I'd need a weapon balance patch, because things can get... unwieldy in multiplayer real quick. I'm looking at you, NUCLEAR GRENADE LAUNCHER.

[quote=jwaffe]EDIT: side note, if you do make hexen CTF note that the fighter will be a little bit of a challenge because the only thing that translates on him is his belt.[/quote]

I'll keep that in mind. Maybe if I include a base skin replacement for the fighter, wearing some sort of body armor?

We've had a massive play session today! ~20 maps in one sitting! And I think the server almost reached full (24-player) capacity!
Loads of people showed up once we managed to get a 3v3 going, and things escalated form there. Thanks to everyone who showed up, and you guys who got more people coming!

We played Standard 2-way CTF. Some interesting points came up during the game - suggestions, commentaries, bugs, concerning various topics - and I've been thinking about a few things as well:

Weapons Stats, appearance, code.

• - Sharp increase in projectile speed for the Crossbow, because its projectiles are too easy to dodge;
  - Team-colored projectiles, because most weapons are projectile-based, and quite visible, creating some visual havoc;
  - Check obituaries again, because they're still working intermittently.

Maps Item placement, layout.

• - Replace (most) Mystic Urns because runners end up hoarding them and becoming effectively immortal;
  - 2w09, flag ended up in an unreachable location in the mid tower, near the top, investigate;
  - 2w11, lower flag lift by 32 so people can see whether or not there's someone at the flag position.
  - 2w12, decorations near the flag end up disrupting gameplay, (re)move them;
  - 2w22 ended up just confusing, as predicted - review layout, add more directional cues;
  - Test 2w14 again in particular, with a small number of players and weapon modifications.

HUD

• - Investigate disappearance of the HUD timer (from the hudtimer mod) after a few minutes of game time/after blue scores a few points (maybe because of the point counter's position, don't know);

Server Server configs, etc.

• - sv_doubleammo 1, never forget;
  - Remove excessively large maps (like 2w04, 2w17 and 2w22) from pub rotation;
  - Host priv, but only with the small maps, and maybe with a lobby map because of the space between the map numbers.

So, what do you guys think? I was thinking about leaving it as vanilla as I could, but the crossbow issue and visual spam became quite evident, so I think I'll have to address these. Anything else you guys want to add?

The servers are down for the moment, working on the weapon patch.

I was going to post a demo, but it ended up fragmented because of a few connection hiccups on my side, and the start was pretty slow for a while.
If someone else has a more solid recording, feel free to post it.

Project Update - The last few maps are now complete! All 40, at last.

The missing eight are now complete!

Spoiler: 8 screenshots for your pleasure (Open)

Spoiler: 2W33 - Apartments (Open)

Spoiler: 2W34 - Roundabout (Open)

Spoiler: 2W35 - The Palace (Open)

Spoiler: 2W36 - The Cage (Open)

Spoiler: 2W37 - Atrium (Open)

Spoiler: 2W38 - The Graveyard (Open)

Spoiler: 2W39 - The Grand Cathedral (Open)

Spoiler: 2W40 - Valador's Legacy (Open)

2w40 - Valador's Legacy is probably the smallest map I've ever made.

I'll make another pass, visit every one of the 40 levels, rectifying various mistakes before posting a release candidate.

If you've got anything to report, from texture misalignment to layouts being just confusing (like 2w22 - Confluence), please let me know. Really. Now would be a good time. You can post it here, send me a PM, or drop a private message on IRC - you can find me on #te, #IEFL or even #Zandronum.

I was thinking - maybe I should place the truly large maps (like 2w07 - The Glacier) at the end of the pack and place smaller versions on their original spots. What do you guys think?

As always, you opinion is welcome.

How I missed that thread? Oh man. You are a champ.

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Could you post a config of server? I want to host your WADs. What order of wads should I make in launch params?