Samsara - No longer under active development.

[Aqua Kitty]

Jingle bells, Doomguy smells, Corvus laid an egg. The Dukemobile lost a wheel and Ranger got away, HEY!

[Catastrophe]

Well I played heretic with samsara, and the grenade launcher only gives about 10 shots. There is no ammo for it in the entire first episode I think.

Also, what's the point of lava nails and cluster rockets? I never remember it being in the original game, and I think it's just plain overkill.

[Aqua Kitty]

They were in the second mission pack, Dissolution of Eternity.

http://www.quakewiki.net/archives/legac ... /rogue.htm

They were incorporated as a more scarce ammo to help Ranger with his damage issues or something, while fitting his artillery role...I don't know. I'm fine with the lava nails and cluster rockets cause they're generally gotten sparingly.

[Ijon Tichy]

yeah the alternate ammo types are in dissolution of eternity, and they're in samsara because you people kept requesting them

[MarkuzESP]

Hey, Cluster missiles are lovely. Single missile , Pwnage. : |

Four Missiles... Four times Pwnage. : )

[The Toxic Avenger]

I noticed when you use them up, you automatically switch to slot 1/2/3, whichever one you have, instead of switching to the normal ammo on the weapon currently out.

[roman6a]

also one thing that most people don't notice

the quad individual rocket (cluster rocket, not quad damaged) does 50% less damage then a normal rocket, so basically by hitting all four rockets at once you'd be getting as much damage as 2 rockets per hit (not to count that they have alot of splash damage and it is advisable to have a regen or a invul running up to do that at close range). it is more of a crow'd control attack then a main firepower attack for larger foes (such as an archvile or a baron, unless there's a bunch of them around for the splash)...

just letting you guys know :P

[Catastrophe]

I still think it's overkill :p

[Ijon Tichy]

well guess what? the DoE ammo types fucked up balance massively, so we've made some changes for 0.27b

• The "normal ammo:DoE ammo" ratio has gone from 2:1 to 4:1, because multi rockets were used as a sort of ranger's SSG equivalent but even better in DM, and lava nails are seen as absolute killers in coop (and they are), and cluster grenades can turn entire hordes into pulp with ease in invasion (as Term and I found out after I spammed cluster grenades into one)
• nails have been taken to 10 base damage, also counteracting the sheer rape super lava nails did
• the Quad Damage now only goes for 30 seconds no matter what
• apparently the multi rockets had an explosion radius of 128? yeah well now it's 64, counteracting the "super XSG" effect

https://github.com/IjonTichy/samsaraJun ... 7979c900c2

[Tux]

yes, it's actually based on a real story from #samsara

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[Catastrophe]

I can't believe you are relying on random spawners for competitive gameplay.

[Qent]

There are random spawners?

[Ijon Tichy]

I can't believe you are relying on random spawners for competitive gameplay.

unless you're talking about the unique (which even then applies only to the SO), what in the nine hells are you going on about

[Aqua Kitty]

yeah the alternate ammo types are in dissolution of eternity, and they're in samsara because you people kept requesting them

They're actually pretty good in Heretic, to make up for those lame Lesser Tomes when he can't get QWAD DAMEG early on to clear hordes like Corvus could in the original game.

[Catastrophe]

Oh my bad, misread it.

[Flynn_Taggart95]

Loving the new version so far. But Chexter's plasma replacement is effed up because the idle sprite is replaced by Ranger's Laser Cannon pickup sprite.

Also if you all care to bother, I have packaged those Better (IMO) Blazkowicz sprites that I talked about a while back into a PK3 if you all would like to implement them into the main build. It even includes an adjusted decorate file for BJ because of his adjusted color range (Unless you do some color remapping in SLADE or something similar).

Original sprites by Nosehair. Free for use from the ZDoom Spriting carnival thread.
http://www.mediafire.com/?q7kzo82ebe73f7o

[Laggy Blazko]

So I discovered Thunderbolt lags a lot and makes my server go boom.
That's all. :|

[Catastrophe]

Hey I'm playing samsara with uniques on in LMS, and the lightning gun is extremely overpowered.

p.s. could you add a cvar that disables autoaim on rocketlauncher weapons?

[TerminusEst13]

At the moment, Uniques are pretty much all over the map in power in LMS. The Berserk almost never gets used unless the enemy is just standing there in a corner, the Morph Ovum is ungodly at higher health levels, Thunderbolt and Alien Weapons are far too damned powerful, etc. You've got stuff that's stupid OP and stuff that's stupid UP. Some stuff is hilariously off--the Mystic Ambit Incant can actually heal enemies!
We definitely want to figure that out and make everything nice and level, but for now if you want an equal match then I'd highly suggest playing with uniques off, please.

p.s. could you add a cvar that disables autoaim on rocketlauncher weapons?

I don't think A_ChangeFlag can modify weapon flags, but I'll try it out and see if I can find a workaround.

[Cruduxy]

Does ovum transform players for 25 seconds as the tip says?