Banned from Doom seeker master severs???

[Bravo]

HI!

I was hosting a Hamachi server with a friend so we could play. 2 days later i get on Doom seeker and every single server shows up blank. The odamax servers are displaying just fine, but id much prefer zandronum of course. Any idea what might have happened? Thanks everyone.

~Bravo

P.S in game nickname is Bravo as well.

[De-M-oN]

For what you need hamachi o.o

LAN, private (=not listed on master) and also password protected server hosting is possible. So for what reason you need hamachi for hosting a zandronum server?

[Vincent(PDP)]

For what you need hamachi o.o

LAN, private (=not listed on master) and also password protected server hosting is possible. So for what reason you need hamachi for hosting a zandronum server?

To play with his friends even though they're not at his house.

LAN = Local Area Network. They must be connected to his network in order to find his server.

Hamachi = Fish. :3
With Hamachi he can still have a private server and only his friends with his Hamachi IP can find his server, even if they're not at his house.

[De-M-oN]

Private Server does the same
Password protected server does the same.

Both ways would lead to possibility to play only with his friends.

hamachi is completely unnecessary here.

[mifu]

Sounds like Hamachi could be interfearing with this as you are not banned from the master server. What happens when you turn Hamachi off?

[Lollipop]

Hamachi does also in fact allow you to host, even if your ports are borked or you for some other reason cannot host properly.

[Bravo]

Thanks for the help everyone but I figured it out in my last post http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5589
. I apologies to dual posts but this thread on this sub forum got so very little attention I made another.

The issue was, my router had a setting by "IP flood detection" that was enabled. I turned that off and everything was working just fine. Somehow I managed to enable that at some point of time by mistake when forwarding some ports. So if anyone else has my issue, make sure to check a setting like that or similar!

[Zalewa]

Thanks for the help everyone but I figured it out in my last post http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5589
. I apologies to dual posts but this thread on this sub forum got so very little attention I made another.

The issue was, my router had a setting by "IP flood detection" that was enabled. I turned that off and everything was working just fine. Somehow I managed to enable that at some point of time by mistake when forwarding some ports. So if anyone else has my issue, make sure to check a setting like that or similar!

This is interesting, and it probably explains why some people have trouble with Doomseeker. I wonder if we can prevent triggering of that "ip flooding protection" on our side somehow.

[Vincent(PDP)]

Private Server does the same
Password protected server does the same.

Both ways would lead to possibility to play only with his friends.

hamachi is completely unnecessary here.

A server BROADCASTED TO MASTER does the same. Setting it as LAN does not do the same as it's only broadcasted to your network. No one else, except for the ones connected to your router, will find it. And if they still find your server, then apparently it isn't LAN, it's still broadcasted (not to master) so that people with your IP address can find it. But settig it to LAN should only make it LAN, and if not, something has changed the way it broadcasts.

[De-M-oN]

And I mentioned only LAN?

private server isnt automatically LAN, neither is a password protected one.

I still see no sense in hamachi for zandronum servers.

Setting it as LAN does not do the same as it's only broadcasted to your network.

Yes LAN is different on this point. But you should see what my point was.

No one else, except for the ones connected to your router, will find it.

It even should be like this:

No one else, except for the ones connected to your router, can connect to it.

[Vincent(PDP)]

And I mentioned only LAN?

private server isnt automatically LAN, neither is a password protected one.

I still see no sense in hamachi for zandronum servers.

Setting it as LAN does not do the same as it's only broadcasted to your network.

Yes LAN is different on this point. But you should see what my point was.

No one else, except for the ones connected to your router, will find it.

It even should be like this:

No one else, except for the ones connected to your router, can connect to it.

Where's the option to make it private? Because this is all I have:

private server isnt automatically LAN, neither is a password protected one.

I didn't say password protected were LAN. :P


BTW Lollipop gave a good explanation for why you can use Hamachi.

Hamachi does also in fact allow you to host, even if your ports are borked or you for some other reason cannot host properly.

If you do not forward the needed ports, it's unlikely for anyone to find your server even if they've got your IP. With Hamachi you don't need Port Forwarding. And it also gives the players a more 'direct', and actually better, connection.

[De-M-oN]

And it also gives the players a more 'direct', and actually better, connection.

I highly doubt that. The netcode would assume LAN speeds for the clients then. Zandronum lets clients to choose internet speed, but there are sure games out which wont do that.
And for zandronum: Why you think a LAN emulation is faster than a direct connection? I really doubt that. A technical explanation would be useful

Where's the option to make it private? Because this is all I have:

For you: If you remove the checkmark out of broadcast to master, you should have the same effect.

[Vincent(PDP)]

And it also gives the players a more 'direct', and actually better, connection.

I highly doubt that. The netcode would assume LAN speeds for the clients then. Zandronum lets clients to choose internet speed, but there are sure games out which wont do that.
And for zandronum: Why you think a LAN emulation is faster than a direct connection? I really doubt that. A technical explanation would be useful

Where's the option to make it private? Because this is all I have:

For you: If you remove the checkmark out of broadcast to master, you should have the same effect.

Using Hamachi gives a better connection because it actually IS a more direct connection than going through the public IP. Hamachi takes shorter ways sending and receiving data.

Hamachi is intended as a zero-configuration virtual private network (VPN) application that is capable of establishing direct links between computers that are behind NAT firewalls without requiring reconfiguration (when the user's PC can be accessed directly without relays from the Internet/WAN side).

And there's more:

in other words, it establishes a connection over the Internet that emulates the connection that would exist if the computers were connected over a local area network.

[De-M-oN]

Using Hamachi gives a better connection because it actually IS a more direct connection than going through the public IP. Hamachi takes shorter ways sending and receiving data.

That doesnt make sense to me. In which way? How can a LAN emulation be shorter than a direct connection? Doesnt make any sense to me. Explain that detailed please. Because that sounds not logic at all.

in other words, it establishes a connection over the Internet that emulates the connection that would exist if the computers were connected over a local area network.

But it is a) still internet speed and not LAN speed and routing and b) its an emulation routine.

[Vincent(PDP)]

Using Hamachi gives a better connection because it actually IS a more direct connection than going through the public IP. Hamachi takes shorter ways sending and receiving data.

That doesnt make sense to me. In which way? How can a LAN emulation be shorter than a direct connection? Doesnt make any sense to me. Explain that detailed please. Because that sounds not logic at all.

in other words, it establishes a connection over the Internet that emulates the connection that would exist if the computers were connected over a local area network.

But it is a) still internet speed and not LAN speed and routing and b) its an emulation routine.

I said Hamachi was faster than via the public IP, not than direct connection. The connection through the public IP is not direct, while VPN via Hamachi is. And yes, the connection depends on the internet speed, but also via which way you send and recieve the data.
Let's say it like this. You have some LAN connections to your router. Each connection represents a room in your house. Then there's Hamachi (VPN). Each Hamachi connection represents a neighbour of yours, it can be a neighbour right next to you or tops a couple of block away. And at last there's the public connections. Each connection is a house beyond you and your neighbours. Now, LAN is the fastest. You just have to go to another room. Then there's Hamachi, you just have to go to a house close to yours, and there's pretty much only one path. And then there's the rest of the world. You have to travel further to get to another house, and there may be some traffic lights etc on the way, and there are many different paths to choose. Which way would you rather go? ;)