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Coffee & Tea TLMS ZDWars Champions

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Post by Dark Wyvern » Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:47 pm

CONGRATS TO THE NEW SUPREME CHAMPIONS OF TLMS ZDOOM WARS:
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RE: ZDoom Wars Tournament

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Post by Torvald » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:17 pm

Need to see who's playing. Post a roster if possible.
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RE: ZDoom Wars Tournament

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Post by Dark Wyvern » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:41 pm

Tor-Bjorn wrote: Need to see who's playing. Post a roster if possible.
Tor-bjorn, i'll update the thread after i have the teams or if any teams/players joins in.
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Post by Springy » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:56 pm

I haven't played ZDoom wars in a while. Seems interesting, going to go and find a team mate and sign up.
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RE: ZDoom Wars Tournament

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Post by Torvald » Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:08 am

Teams of 2.
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RE: ZDoom Wars Tournament

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Post by Dark Wyvern » Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:09 am

Slyfox wrote: is it teams of 3, or 2, or....?
Snap! thank you for reminding me there Sly.
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Post by Mobius » Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:37 am

Game winning tiers
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RE: ZDoom Wars Tournament *Maps Updated*

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Post by Llewellyn » Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:47 am

What server(s) is this going to be played on?

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Post by TerminusEst13 » Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:06 am

What version of ZDoom Wars will you be using?

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Post by Mobius » Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:19 am

3 rounds? Most ZDW games are like 40 minutes. Get out of here.

Also ZDW is horribly off-balance with team gameplay. You lose even one person and you're fucked 100 percent.
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RE: ZDoom Wars Tournament *Maps Updated*

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Post by Dark Wyvern » Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:01 am

Llewellyn wrote: What server(s) is this going to be played on?
Well those servers are up to your choice. Just need results, either on GV or Oblacek
TerminusEst13 wrote: What version of ZDoom Wars will you be using?
Since i see no servers with the ZDoom Wars version inlcuding Realm667, Duke, or Nazi. I guess it'll be either v2.4, v3.2_2 or GV v2.1
Mobius wrote: 3 rounds? Most ZDW games are like 40 minutes. Get out of here.

Also ZDW is horribly off-balance with team gameplay. You lose even one person and you're fucked 100 percent.
Well it is long, but some people know how to beat it quick. It's still fun. Lose one person and you're fucked? No, that isn't always true. I see teams of two lose a partner. And later that game, they win by that one person remaining alive. It all takes skills and strategies to over win someone.

**Other wise, if I host the server, i'll probably include Realm for you Term. Or even Nazi, and Duke. But with my crappy pc, I don't think I would host the server, since people complained about the lag.**
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RE: ZDoom Wars Tournament *Maps Updated*

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Post by Torvald » Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:26 am

The only time you could ever win 2v1 is under the notion that you have an already existing army greater than that of your enemy. Otherwise, no, it is impossible.
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RE: ZDoom Wars Tournament *Maps Updated*

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Post by Zakken » Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:36 am

Mobius wrote: 3 rounds? Most ZDW games are like 40 minutes. Get out of here.

Also ZDW is horribly off-balance with team gameplay. You lose even one person and you're fucked 100 percent.
Maybe the development team should add some kind of compensation for 2v1 scenarios. Perhaps make those who are outnumbered have larger mana income? I dunno.

Anyhow, I'm looking forward to watch this tourney if it does happen.
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Post by XutaWoo » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:49 am

I always imagined the concept being similar to MOBAs. If even one person isn't operating at 100%, the whole team suffers. You die, your teammate gets screwed over. It's intuitive that if you manage to bring down one part of a team, you cripple the other, so getting bonuses for losing a teammate is kinda dumb.

tl;dr: ZDoom Wars is much more strategy based than typical FPS competitive play and thus its teamplay is much more reliant on making no mistakes while still helping your team out.
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Post by Ivan » Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:50 am

Tor-Bjorn wrote: The only time you could ever win 2v1 is under the notion that you have an already existing army greater than that of your enemy. Otherwise, no, it is impossible.
The one and only TRUE case you can win this scenario is if you are DOOMGUY and the other team has no doomguy and if you survive till timelimit.

Seriously, that whole thing is basically fucked. If you are going to do a tournament out of this, I want equal chances. There needs to be changes made to the ZDW to be fit into tournament gameplay, like equating health of all classes, lesser money income so on so on.
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RE: ZDoom Wars Tournament *Maps Updated*

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Post by Dark Wyvern » Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:43 pm

Ivan wrote:
Tor-Bjorn wrote: The only time you could ever win 2v1 is under the notion that you have an already existing army greater than that of your enemy. Otherwise, no, it is impossible.
The one and only TRUE case you can win this scenario is if you are DOOMGUY and the other team has no doomguy and if you survive till timelimit.

Seriously, that whole thing is basically fucked. If you are going to do a tournament out of this, I want equal chances. There needs to be changes made to the ZDW to be fit into tournament gameplay, like equating health of all classes, lesser money income so on so on.
Ivan, care to demonstrate this in the tournament? :lol: But also, each class has there ups and downs. You just need strategy to win.
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Post by Wirtualnosc » Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:26 pm

Why it has to be team tournament? Why not solo?...
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Post by Dark Wyvern » Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:34 pm

Wirtualnosc wrote: Why it has to be team tournament? Why not solo?...
Hm. Solo tournament ? Does anyone agree to this saying? If yes I will change it to a solo tournament instead of being paired. I can be satisfied with either choice.
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RE: ZDoom Wars Tournament *Maps Updated*

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Post by Torvald » Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:32 pm

Ivan wrote:
Tor-Bjorn wrote: The only time you could ever win 2v1 is under the notion that you have an already existing army greater than that of your enemy. Otherwise, no, it is impossible.
The one and only TRUE case you can win this scenario is if you are DOOMGUY and the other team has no doomguy and if you survive till timelimit.

Seriously, that whole thing is basically fucked. If you are going to do a tournament out of this, I want equal chances. There needs to be changes made to the ZDW to be fit into tournament gameplay, like equating health of all classes, lesser money income so on so on.

Actually it turns out this rule does not apply to TZDWars, but only LMS. I tried camping as Doomguy and it just goes to sudden death, which we all know is a fancy name for "stalemate/ overtime"
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