Nintendo can't catch a break.

[Ruin]

More to the point, why does there need to be gay characters/black characters/a minority class? Can't a story be fully engaging and well structured without getting pc? And why does it automatically become racist or prejudiced if the story does not have minority characters or the characters are portrayed negatively?

Because misc social media/tumblr social justice warriors need something to complain about. That's pretty much all it boils down to. I'm willing to bet that a good portion of these people don't even play the games they're complaining about.

[HexaDoken]

Because for a normal person on the internet this blasphemeous 'common sense' of yours is a total heresy and you are a sinner. Begone, be set on fire, shoo, shoo.

What's most sad is that none of this surprises me even in the slightest. Truly, there are no limits to human stupidity. Especially when not required to confront your opponents directly and you can instead speak through such convenient medias as letters or internet.

[MrSetharoo]

The no diversity claim, I learned, came from Paste Magazine I believe

[Quote=WiiU Daily]So far reviews of Mario Kart 8 have been positive. Except with one review from Paste Magazine, whose reviewer, Casey Malone, criticized the game for not having enough diversity when it comes to skin color.

That’s right. Whether it’s a movie, TV show, or video game, there’s always someone out there who tries to bring race into everything. Mr. Malone said in his review:
“When it comes to human characters, Mario Kart 8 is overwhelmingly white. Of the 29 drivers, 14 are human (including Toad and Toadette), and every single one of them is white”.[/quote]

[Medicris]

This is stupid. The last thing I want is token minority characters shoehorned into everything for the sake of "representation" and "equality". I think it's actually worse taste to do this; it's often blatantly obvious they're just put in for the sake of filling a quota. These people put him in thinking "yeah, this will show we accept them as real people!" where instead they do quite literally what they say they're against: single out characters and the people they represent for what colour skin they have. Because that's... equality? I can't speak for how other people take it, but I can't stand it.

I find it ridiculous how in a movement that's supposed to be about "stopping discrimination against races", it isn't about not caring what race a guy is, it's about caring way too damn much what race someone is and getting out the pitchforks if they don't like what they see. Accepting, not discriminating is what you say you love to do! It's only worth concern if you witness someone being discriminated against for what they are, not for what they're not.

The kind of hypocritical political correctness you see around Tumblr SJW blogs reminds me of Orwell's Thought Police.

[Avi]

The total population of non-Japanese in Japan is only 1.5% with 3% tops if you combine Japanese/foreign mixed. That's 97% pure Japanese no matter how you shake it. Yet, somehow we're supposed to expect them to know every other ethnicity and way of life and represent them in a modernly acceptable manner? It's idiocy no matter what direction you shake it. I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo starts to limit their international releases even more than they already do if this is the knee-jerk reaction they're gonna get.

[Spottswoode]

I find it ridiculous how in a movement that's supposed to be about "stopping discrimination against races", it's not simply about not caring what race a guy is, it's about getting caring way too much. Why are Mario characters white? Why do you care? It's fucking Japan where 98.5% of the people are Japanese. Come on, libs, accept their cultural norms, it's what you say you love to do! It's only worth caring about if you see someone being discriminated against for what they are, not for what they're not.

I've often posed the question to some of the irl sjw's I've met usually amounting to "what if there are/were no (insert race or minority) in (insert location)." And the response I usually get is "Well why wouldn't there be any?" The reality of the situation is moot, even if it is highly unlikely that said minority would be there in the first place. Let's not forget, it's entirely possible that a species has no races or is entirely homogeneous. (I offer the Asari as an example.) Geographical separation (as would likely be the case in the Mushroom Kingdom) is also irrelevant to this case. I like to counter with "Would it be okay to have white people in a story about African Tribal wars for a show of diversity?" That tends to shut them up or cause them to go to insane troll logic.

On the whole, the SJW's aren't interested in the reality or actual fairness of the situation.

[MrSetharoo]

I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo starts to limit their international releases even more than they already do if this is the knee-jerk reaction they're gonna get.

I hate to admit it but that day will come very soon if Americans don't start picking up more Nintendo products.

[Ænima]

Go ahead and wear your headdresses and go HEY YA HEYYY while you're at it.

Yikes. Yeah you guys get scroogled. I think part of it is also because in the past, it was difficult to communicate that a character was Native American because lower texture colors and resolution meant that brown skin was brown skin and could look like Mexican, Indian, Black, whatever, and low polys meant that creating the distinctive NA facial bone structure wasn't possible. I think this is why the old Turok was so stereotypically dressed and why the new one just looks like some buff brown-skinned dude with a mohawk.

The only game that feels like it portrayed the harsh reality of being a modern Amerindian was Prey. Tommy makes minimum wage, is treated like shit by the white people in the area, and may possibly be an alcoholic. It's also probably the only game where shamanic mysticism actually plays a part in gameplay (spirit walking, etc) and isn't just some sort of Pocahontas plot device.

[Newb The shrubbery]

SJWs are like a bunch of children who didn't get their sweets at the grocery store, and when you do give them some sweets they will whine that they didn't get everything in the store. You just can't please these sort of people as if you try to do so, you will only end up making something else for them to whine about.
Also this political correctness is a plague and is the most politically incorrect concept to exist in the first place.

[Lord_of_D:]

People often is stupid enough to look for something why to whine to anything, this is a perfect example of it

[Empyre]

OK, I curious. What does SJW mean? I don't recall ever seeing it other than in this thread.

[Hypnotoad]

OK, I curious. What does SJW mean? I don't recall ever seeing it other than in this thread.

They're a group of people from tumblr who get offended incredibly easily.

[Avi]

It's probably also worth mentioning that people are actually pissed off that Zero Suit Samus from the next installment of Super Smash Bros. is wearing "high heels." Like, are you serious? Fuckin' idiots, all of them.

I still don't get this at all. After all, who wouldn't be offended finding out that they turned their precious nintendo character that you can speed run to have her armor/clothes removed in the original games into a sex symbol? It's lunacy. I'd be totally pissed.

And on the topic of those shoes:
[spoiler]

Clearly that yellow trim just adds to the slut appeal. Seriously, what the hell are people thinking? She's got heels in both friggin' versions.[/spoiler]

[MrSetharoo]

It's probably also worth mentioning that people are actually pissed off that Zero Suit Samus from the next installment of Super Smash Bros. is wearing "high heels." Like, are you serious? Fuckin' idiots, all of them.

I still don't get this at all. After all, who wouldn't be offended finding out that they turned their precious nintendo character that you can speed run to have her armor/clothes removed in the original games into a sex symbol? It's lunacy. I'd be totally pissed.

And on the topic of those shoes:
[spoiler]

Clearly that yellow trim just adds to the slut appeal. Seriously, what the hell are people thinking? She's got heels in both friggin' versions.[/spoiler]

Well people tend to forget that SSB4 is not made in house by Nintendo its made by BanCo or what ever they're called now. The only thing Nintendo has a hand in it is what characters go in, rights to the IP, and the creator of SSB being the head of the project so it gives them a bit of wiggle room in designs. Also maybe the heels are supposed to be part of a new Up-B for her?

Also, Other M was made by Team Ninja so the heels were kind of a given thing to occur.

IMO I think the heels in SSB4 look a little more classy than the ones in Other M.

[skyrimguy]

;_;

[Captain Kupo]

It's probably also worth mentioning that people are actually pissed off that Zero Suit Samus from the next installment of Super Smash Bros. is wearing "high heels." Like, are you serious? Fuckin' idiots, all of them.

I still don't get this at all. After all, who wouldn't be offended finding out that they turned their precious nintendo character that you can speed run to have her armor/clothes removed in the original games into a sex symbol? It's lunacy. I'd be totally pissed.

And on the topic of those shoes:
[spoiler]

Clearly that yellow trim just adds to the slut appeal. Seriously, what the hell are people thinking? She's got heels in both friggin' versions.[/spoiler]

Well people tend to forget that SSB4 is not made in house by Nintendo its made by BanCo or what ever they're called now. The only thing Nintendo has a hand in it is what characters go in, rights to the IP, and the creator of SSB being the head of the project so it gives them a bit of wiggle room in designs. Also maybe the heels are supposed to be part of a new Up-B for her?

Also, Other M was made by Team Ninja so the heels were kind of a given thing to occur.

IMO I think the heels in SSB4 look a little more classy than the ones in Other M.

Other M wasnt Team Ninja (atleast not entirely)
most of the problems with it (such as the dumb high heels) were due to the director, Yoshio Sakamoto

SSB4 samus does indeed look much nicer than other m samus though (she doesnt look frail and weak anymore)
to be honest she even looks better than she did in SSBB

[Zakken]

;_;

;_; is right. That's all I see in that post right there.

[MrSetharoo]

It's probably also worth mentioning that people are actually pissed off that Zero Suit Samus from the next installment of Super Smash Bros. is wearing "high heels." Like, are you serious? Fuckin' idiots, all of them.

I still don't get this at all. After all, who wouldn't be offended finding out that they turned their precious nintendo character that you can speed run to have her armor/clothes removed in the original games into a sex symbol? It's lunacy. I'd be totally pissed.

And on the topic of those shoes:
[spoiler]

Clearly that yellow trim just adds to the slut appeal. Seriously, what the hell are people thinking? She's got heels in both friggin' versions.[/spoiler]

Well people tend to forget that SSB4 is not made in house by Nintendo its made by BanCo or what ever they're called now. The only thing Nintendo has a hand in it is what characters go in, rights to the IP, and the creator of SSB being the head of the project so it gives them a bit of wiggle room in designs. Also maybe the heels are supposed to be part of a new Up-B for her?

Also, Other M was made by Team Ninja so the heels were kind of a given thing to occur.

IMO I think the heels in SSB4 look a little more classy than the ones in Other M.

Other M wasnt Team Ninja (atleast not entirely)
most of the problems with it (such as the dumb high heels) were due to the director, Yoshio Sakamoto

SSB4 samus does indeed look much nicer than other m samus though (she doesnt look frail and weak anymore)
to be honest she even looks better than she did in SSBB

All I remember is that it was made 3rd party, the game was announced during pre-Wii E3 along side SSBB, Something about Team Ninja, and Morgan Webb (RIP G4) commenting "If Samus jumps around in a skimpy bikini and high heels im going to be mad". So my info on Other M is almost a decade old. I honestly thought the game was scrapped until the day Two Best Friends played it on their channel.

She does look nicer .she looks more fit for athletic movement. The heels in the SSB4 verison look like actual equipment rather than dumb sex appeal. Also, it has to be heels like that because nothing else wouldn't work. Like try imagine her wearing weird techo space boots. It looks weird. The heels dont break the flow of the design (IMO at least). So to me that kind of negates what people are complaing about.

If there are confirmed alt costumes (via Female Villager model as alt for Villager) do you think that Fusion Suit with be Samus' s alt? I bet they do some bullshit that Zero Suit is her Alt costume like in Brawl. If they make Fusion Suit her alt for Samus Aran I'd loose my shit because that would be fucking awesome.

(I wonder what the two from X-Play are up to these days)

[Ænima]

(I wonder what the two from X-Play are up to these days)

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As for Morgan, I have no clue ...

[MrSetharoo]

(I wonder what the two from X-Play are up to these days)

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As for Morgan, I have no clue ...

Oh my god has Sesler aged...

I wanna say Webb is some how involved with E3 now adays