Duel40a (May 27, 2015)

[AlexMax]

After much wailing and gnashing of teeth, it's time to clean house. Before a Duel48 comes out, the fat must be trimmed from Duel32.

REMOVED
- Brit11 MAP02
- Fae_Duel
- GothicDM MAP02
- Sipooma
- Styx8
- Titmilk
- Xfire5
- The Secret Map

ADDED
+ Class219 MAP01
+ EonDM1E MAP05
+ Exec MAP03
+ Exposed
+ Eyedea
+ Styxdm01 MAP02
+ Tedp MAP01
+ Another secret map

Coming soon (as in tonight or tomorrow night...)

[Combinebobnt]

Yay new maps

[IdeIdoom]

REMOVED
- Brit11 MAP02 - Finally
- Fae_Duel - Finally
- GothicDM MAP02 - YES
- Sipooma - No, why remove sipooma?
- Styx8 - Why remove this too?
- Titmilk - It wasn't good to start with.
- Xfire5 - Though I am playing it sometimes, good riddance.
- The Secret Map - Oh, finally.

ADDED
+ Class219 MAP01 - Don't know it.
+ EonDM1E MAP05 - Don't know it.
+ Exec MAP03 - Same, don't know it.
+ Exposed - Pretty good
+ Eyedea - Don't know it.
+ Styxdm01 MAP02 - I am sure will play it alot
+ Tedp MAP01 - Don't know it
+ Another secret map - I wonder what will be this time.

I dunno how good will the unknown maps be.

[Springy]

Nice too see Exposed back. Yeti's sick at duel map making. Also, good too see Sipooma finally removed I didn't like that one much.

[Balrog]

Why does everyone hate Sipooma?

[Hypnotoad]

Because it is terrible and basically a mock/joke map.

[Catastrophe]

Why does everyone hate Sipooma?

Ask yourself, what does s.i.p.o.o.m.a. stand for?

[Combinebobnt]

Even though some of the removed maps might be liked by some (including a few for me), they overall weren't highly played and weren't the gleaming light of this wad. It will be better to get new maps in and wash out the overall least anyway.

[AlexMax]

Duel32d was released with the promised map changes, so I guess you can complain about how terrible the new maps are now.

[Combinebobnt]

Bfg5map01 is so much better with infinite ammo

[AlexMax]

Duel32d was about map updates. I would like to release a duel32e that actually has a few more features, something I have not done in quite a few releases.

- An option to force ammo respawn on for bfgd5m1 and off for other maps.
- New text colors for chat and nickname use.
- A place to put server advertisements in the start map. (maybe...)

However, something big that I want to run by you guys is new Random functionality. Instead of Random immediately taking you to a map, I would like for Random to take you to a separate selection area that has precisely two portals. One portal would show a randomly selected map, and if both players are okay with the map they can run into it to start playing on it. The other portal would be a "Blind Pick" or "Veto" option, if either player runs into this portal another random map is selected and this time you're actually stuck with it.

The idea is meant to be analogous to Halo 3's matchmaking 'veto' system, and I think it might increase the popularity of random pick even more, since players have the assurance that if random gives them a map they don't like, they have a second chance. Allowing players a choice between two random maps is a less attractive alternative, since there is a potential for 'standoffs' like the kind that can happen in the main selection room.

What do you guys think of the idea?

[Strych6]

- Only bfgd5m1 seems to need it
- As long as the colors aren't tacky, it would be a neat expansion
- Good for modding commerce but eventually there'd be abuse/pollution. The folks that host the wad are usually well adjusted, but is the effort worth the experiment?
-A little more control over random would be good. The system should play out fine and provide more incentive on flexibility.

I've always hoped each lobby quadrant would have it's own random option.

[IdeIdoom]

You can always copy shoot!_fix.wad way of doing the respawn ammo.

[Catastrophe]

I like the new random idea.

[AlexMax]

Statistics from Duel32 as of the release of duel32d.

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Map                   Pick PComp   PC%  Rand RComp   RC%
brit11 map01            26    11   42%    22    19   86%
exodus1on1              13    13  100%    25    23   92%
dwango6 map01           21    14   66%    25    20   80%
brit11 map05             9     3   33%    20    17   85%
exposed                 28    23   82%    19    19  100%
bfgd5m1                 33    23   69%     0     0     -
dweller2 map11          59    57   96%    19    15   78%
dwango5 map07           45    39   86%    19    16   84%
dwango5 map01          206   195   94%    14    14  100%
greenwar map24          31    28   90%    21    17   80%
greenwar map20          92    89   96%    21    20   95%
styxdm01 map02          36    27   75%    18    18  100%
xenosx9 map04           19    10   52%    16    14   87%
brit10 map07            15    11   73%    15    14   93%
doom2 map01             33    27   81%    22    16   72%
fuloser                 23    18   78%    21    21  100%
judas23_               271   251   92%    18    16   88%
ssl2                   216   200   92%    24    22   91%
class219 map01          34    24   70%    32    31   96%
moo2d                   77    70   90%    21    19   90%
oblivx                  89    79   88%    17    17  100%
exec map03              36    27   75%    23    22   95%
uroburos                27    19   70%    25    24   96%
styxdm01 map01          83    75   90%    13    12   92%
tedp map01              34    22   64%    20    18   90%
king1                  128   117   91%    22    22  100%
foxtrot                 21    20   95%    18    14   77%
shoot                  389   365   93%     0     0     -
eyedea                  23    22   95%    15    13   86%
pobla8                  15    13   86%    15    13   86%
lazarus1j map01          9     5   55%    15    14   93%
eondm1e map05           53    41   77%    24    22   91%
lazarus1j map04         29    26   89%    19    17   89%
boo                     23    15   65%    27    25   92%

And the complete duel32c statistics.

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Map                   Pick PComp   PC%  Rand RComp   RC%
brit11 map02            39    24   61%    38    35   92%
brit11 map01            43    30   69%    58    53   91%
greenwar map24         157   137   87%    53    49   92%
dwango6 map01           73    46   63%    45    38   84%
brit11 map05            44    36   81%    50    46   92%
titmilk                 42    33   78%    53    42   79%
dweller2 map11         144   134   93%    52    45   86%
dwango5 map07          106    86   81%    51    40   78%
dwango5 map01          433   359   82%    63    52   82%
exodus1on1              59    50   84%    55    47   85%
faeduel13 map01         29    18   62%    66    54   81%
greenwar map20         398   349   87%    56    50   89%
uroburos               104    97   93%    47    44   93%
brit10 map07            43    36   83%    50    43   86%
styx8                   33    30   90%    54    47   87%
fuloser                 62    54   87%    53    49   92%
judas23_               576   511   88%    57    51   89%
ssl2                   375   339   90%    47    43   91%
styxdm01 map01         159   144   90%    60    52   86%
moo2d                  218   196   89%    44    44  100%
gothicdm map02          87    69   79%    60    48   80%
oblivx                 144   121   84%    49    44   89%
xenosx9 map04           73    68   93%    60    52   86%
british9 map01          30    20   66%     0     0     -
xfire5                  45    35   77%    54    46   85%
king1                  252   230   91%    58    51   87%
foxtrot                 30    25   83%    46    38   82%
shoot                  828   712   85%     0     0     -
sipooma                 72    46   63%    63    55   87%
pobla8                  81    71   87%    48    41   85%
lazarus1j map01         64    43   67%    49    44   89%
lazarus1j map04         95    80   84%    60    54   90%
doom2 map01             70    51   72%    66    47   71%
boo                     43    28   65%    40    35   87%

And heck, here are the complete duel32a stats for good measure.

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Map                   Pick PComp   PC%  Rand RComp   RC%
ssl2                  1340  1226   91%   138   128   92%
dwango6 map01          193   140   72%   189   168   88%
brit11 map05           115    89   77%   166   150   90%
brit11 map01           138   111   80%   166   157   94%
dweller2 map11         295   257   87%   150   136   90%
dwango5 map07          403   357   88%   142   122   85%
dwango5 map01         1529  1305   85%   184   165   89%
greenwar map24         237   205   86%   169   158   93%
udmx map02             270   209   77%   175   149   85%
greenwar map20        1600  1498   93%   164   157   95%
udm3 map03             328   283   86%   167   145   86%
xenosx9 map04          103    81   78%   157   141   89%
brit10 map07           182   138   75%   171   162   94%
styx8                  131   105   80%   163   142   87%
brit10 map02           191   123   64%   159   142   89%
fuloser                180   149   82%   150   139   92%
judas23_              3150  2853   90%   163   151   92%
fae_duel11 map01       198   156   78%   180   153   85%
moo2d                  405   365   90%   169   157   92%
oblivx                 729   663   90%   151   144   95%
uroburos               468   433   92%   152   145   95%
aurora                 104    61   58%   165   134   81%
styxdm01 map01         342   290   84%   177   166   93%
xfire5                 168   135   80%   172   160   93%
king1                 1279  1150   89%   172   155   90%
doom2 map01            520   394   75%   176   141   80%
shoot                 1560  1334   85%     0     0     -
sipooma                363   293   80%   165   146   88%
pobla8                 218   195   89%   157   138   87%
lazarus1j map01        188   153   81%   158   140   88%
lazarus1j map04        468   397   84%   169   153   90%
boo                    139   112   80%   169   148   87%
duel16                 279   248   88%     0     0     -
32in2410 map26         153   103   67%   148   116   78%

Want the python script that compiles my stats? Here you go:

http://files.funcrusherplus.net/static/duel32.py

Edit the config bits at the top of the script to suit your needs, then run the script, passing paths to logfiles you wish to examine. Duel32a had a known bug where brit11 map01 was labeled incorrectly as map02, so if you publish logs from that time, be sure to change the name around.

[AlexMax]

Duel32e is being worked on:

Something old, something new. This layout is more compact than the old one, and I think looks more vibrant to boot. The hanging doors are placeholders for textures that allow server operators to place logos inside them.

Still trying to figure out what a proper layout might be for the play/skip interface, but it's a start...

EDIT: Trying another layout...

[RoSKing]

wait, so you remove SIPOOMA but not foxtrot? What sense does this make? SIPOOMA was played more than twice as much and played almost as much as some of the "standard" 1v1 maps. Even that piece of shit exodus got less plays than SIPOOMA.

[Samurai]

The textures look good

Also would like something similar for the IDL wad if possible. The one they use GV is okay, but think it would would look better if they placed the maps in the map order, rather than the wad order. Not sure if there was any plans to do this though.

[Slyfox]

wait, so you remove SIPOOMA but not foxtrot? What sense does this make? SIPOOMA was played more than twice as much and played almost as much as some of the "standard" 1v1 maps. Even that piece of shit exodus got less plays than SIPOOMA.

whoa whoa WHOA
alex already removed my favorite map, you aren't getting him to remove foxtrot as well; you can bag on another map that's rarely played
Edit: Sipooma was crap anyways, and xfire5 had more played than foxtrot so it sucks thats it is removed but w/e

[one_Two]

wait, so you remove SIPOOMA but not foxtrot? What sense does this make? SIPOOMA was played more than twice as much and played almost as much as some of the "standard" 1v1 maps. Even that piece of shit exodus got less plays than SIPOOMA.

Nothing wrong with exodus.