Brutal Doom author encourages suicide, discuss

[TheMightyHeracross]

I would just like to say that Mark's biggest mistake here is him not conceding that what he did was wrong. It's one thing to say something quite destructive, but not feeling remorse for doing so is almost psychopathic.

Does anyone remember this guy? He faked dying of leukemia in order to get attention for his hack? It was wrong of him to do it, but at least he apologized and explained why he did it.

So I ask you Mark to apologize SINCERELY for what you did. You certainly won't get away scott free. But you can at least know that you made a good decision to confess.

This. I've had messed up moments before, but I realize what I do. The fact that he came just to say "you guys love talking about me" was not cool.

[MotorWülf]

...the amount of splits that had to take place for this thread is atrocious

Hey, thatwas a labor of love.

Anyway, imo, thread should have started and ended like this.

Is anyone really surprised?

I would imagine Mark is the kind of guy who admits to/is proud of being an ass.
Also how do you check what you were warned for?

[infurnus]

Is anyone really surprised?

I would imagine Mark is the kind of guy who admits to/is proud of being an ass.

Yeah, it seems that some were jumping to defend/criticize without stopping to think, not quite realizing or caring that Sgt. Mark basically enjoys the spotlight.

Also how do you check what you were warned for?

Go to your User Control Panel (User CP), then click your username. If your account has been warned, you will see it at the right in the "[Your name here]'s Forum Info" boxes, under the total time spent online. Yes, I know it's a bit of a maze. The forum software does not send a PM to users about warns by default (it's a manual checkbox that has to be clicked each and every time a warn is issued)

[Balrog]

If he wanted to have any sort of semblance of credibility, he should, but perhaps you are right, he would rather stand up for his principles (nazism, misogyny, violence, immaturity) and sit behind a wall of fans rather than do any work himself (rather like his mod)!

Sorta reminds me of this guy and his inability to accept the fact that his prior work was awful. (Kinda suprised to find that thread in the trash, actually. Maybe this thread should join it or at least be placed in Archive as I highly suspect that this thread is going to degenerate into a spamfest.)

...the amount of splits that had to take place for this thread is atrocious

Hey, thatwas a labor of love.

Anyway, imo, thread should have started and ended like this.

I agree with you, mate. It really does summarize this whole thread in one well-crafted image, doesn't it.

[MotorWülf]

Thank you
EDIT: Whoops, that was to Infurnus, but hey, thank you too :)
Three minutes well spent

[Obsidian]

Ahem.

WHY THE FUCK HAS THIS GONE ON FOR SIX PAGES?!?!

Like I said in my last post, people say dumb shit: there's no need to psychoanalyze this stuff, which seems to happen an awful lot when it comes to this particular individual. Remember the last fiasco with Brutal Doom? ONE FUCKING LINE OF CODE and he ends up getting Losered on Doomworld and temporarily banned on ZDoom. Granted he handled the situation badly, but what can you do when there's that many people on your case? I bet I would have flipped out if it'd happened to me, and I don't really make a habit of flipping out(Heh).

@SgtMark4 Don't think I'm defending you: I have to admit that that was one of the more callous posts I've seen on the internet and it's never something you should joke about. In some cases the internet is a person't last bastion, somewhere where they try escape their lives. If all of a sudden they come across this sort of thing, they very well might follow through. I know you thought the OP was a troll post, but there's a fine line between black humo(u)r and simply being a bastard. Yes, I think you should apologize: the quicker you do that, the quicker this whole mess is over.

[Doomguy 2000]

Here's an idea, I say we let id software know about his behavior and also send them the evidence. I'm sure they wouldn't be too pleased to hear about the truth about Mark's behavior, especially with his recent actions encouraging suicide.

[Balrog]

Here's an idea, I say we let id software know about his behavior and also send them the evidence. I'm sure they wouldn't be too pleased to hear about the truth about Mark's behavior, especially with his recent actions encouraging suicide.

They don't have anything to do with anything here. Well, maybe John Romero can tweet something about it, and that might get at least some admins consider permabanning him. I doubt it, though. Long story short is that it wouldn't solve anything.

[Reach Term]

Now now, Mr.SM4 needs to realise that he has a very large public image and he needs to upheld. Just because he's on the internet doesn't mean he can just say "You're a fuckin snaky ass black ho, who should be making my damn sandwich and suck my fucking cock. Don't even try to get equal rights with someone like me, go kill yourself you fuckin monkey" it's not like there already a public image filled person.....right?

I think SM4 needs to realise that people are now looking up at you, they are being influenced by you by wanting to create more and better things. If you're just gonna act like a 12 year old misogynist, then you should stop what you're doing and get off the internet. Because if you don't people are gonna hate you and not care about your projects. For example this guy.

In short, today's lesson is, don't be a belled.

hello, I'm your rarely speaking local moderator asking you all to please keep the conversation on topic. the amount of splits that had to take place for this thread is atrocious

thank you, you may now return to your regularly scheduled thread

[ClonedPickle]

Here's an idea, I say we let id software know about his behavior and also send them the evidence. I'm sure they wouldn't be too pleased to hear about the truth about Mark's behavior, especially with his recent actions encouraging suicide.

What the christ would they do? They don't have time for things that don't concern them at all. As shitty as Mark IV's behavior is, they'd tell us to ride that jelly train away from him.

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[Marcaek]

Don't bother banning him over this.Let him continue to prove what a dick he is so he can alienate more people.

OR

Give him the chance to apologize and stop doing this shit. I have my doubts he will but hey! i'd be happy to be proven wrong

[Impact]

Now I'm not usually one to get offended over posts on the internet. In fact, I don't see why I should be offended, but this is really taking the anonymous immunity of responsibility on the internet far too far. Preying on the weak is never funny nor wise, and if the results may end in self-harm or suicide, then you've really got to re-evaluate just who the fuck you think you are and why you're being such an ignorant c*nt. You as a spectator to all this have just got step back and think "What's the incentive here?", is Sarge a lonely sadistic basement dweller or mentally deranged? Is he known for taking jokes too far or is he just plain ignorant?

Even if he apologized now he'd still be seen as the anti-christ, and what he's done can never be forgiven. If Binary really did commit suicide, then the blood's on his hands, and will be for the remainder of his days.

[spoiler]Good going filtering "c*nt" to "BANANER", but not doing so with fuck, shit, bugger, bastard etc[/spoiler]

[Balrog]

Even if he apologized now he'd still be seen as the anti-christ, and what he's done can never be forgiven. If Binary really did commit suicide, then the blood's on his hands, and will be for the remainder of his days.

It was confirmed 3 or 4 pages ago that Binary is alive and well. Binary did mention in a PM copied here that he is prone to depressive episodes, however, so that adds another layer of despicable to this whole affair.

[TheMightyHeracross]

Umm
Binary is fine.
Did you see that post earlier by Marrub?
EDIT: Balrog beat me.

[Impact]

Even if he apologized now he'd still be seen as the anti-christ, and what he's done can never be forgiven. If Binary really did commit suicide, then the blood's on his hands, and will be for the remainder of his days.

It was confirmed 3 or 4 pages ago that Binary is alive and well. Binary did mention in a PM copied here that he is prone to depressive episodes, however, so that adds another layer of despicable to this whole affair.

Yeah sorry, didn't really want to sift through seven pages of anger, sweat and raised blood pressure. Even so, that only makes it marginally less serious, he's far from being off the hook here. He'd just better count his blessings that no one (I assume) knows him in the real world..

[ArcheKruz]

Here's an idea, I say we let id software know about his behavior and also send them the evidence. I'm sure they wouldn't be too pleased to hear about the truth about Mark's behavior, especially with his recent actions encouraging suicide.

They don't have anything to do with anything here. Well, maybe John Romero can tweet something about it, and that might get at least some admins consider permabanning him. I doubt it, though. Long story short is that it wouldn't solve anything.

Here's an idea, I say we let id software know about his behavior and also send them the evidence. I'm sure they wouldn't be too pleased to hear about the truth about Mark's behavior, especially with his recent actions encouraging suicide.

What the christ would they do? They don't have time for things that don't concern them at all. As shitty as Mark IV's behavior is, they'd tell us to ride that jelly train away from him.

iD had endorsed the mod on several occasions. Are you saying that it's perfectly reasonable for them to promote the mod and its author, and on the same breath say that it's unreasonable to expect them to denounce the mod and author when his despicable actions have been brought to light?

Doomguy 2000, I would say go for it.

[infurnus]

Good going filtering "c*nt" to "BANANER", but not doing so with fuck, shit, bugger, bastard etc

That seems to be a remnant of the April fools word filters.

I am now hesitant on removing it, Sgt. Mark indeed seems to be a bananer...

Don't bother banning him over this.Let him continue to prove what a dick he is so he can alienate more people.

OR

Give him the chance to apologize and stop doing this shit. I have my doubts he will but hey! i'd be happy to be proven wrong

I'm going with the latter, I'd rather give him a chance to defend himself. I honestly wish that people would stop trying to defend him, let him speak for himself.
He seemed to want to speak for himself earlier in this thread, but he just made an immature joke and signed off. Will he apologize after reading the rest of this thread? Will he just not reply to this thread again? Why am I asking so many questions?

[Ogre]

I'm happy this has gotten out, for now Brutal Doom's reputation is falling, and the New World Order of toys' agenda to bring about the first galactic impact has been crippled.

The Brutal Doom Truth Movement will pledge to help in exposing Sergerant Mark.

[Doomguy 2000]

Here's an idea, I say we let id software know about his behavior and also send them the evidence. I'm sure they wouldn't be too pleased to hear about the truth about Mark's behavior, especially with his recent actions encouraging suicide.

They don't have anything to do with anything here. Well, maybe John Romero can tweet something about it, and that might get at least some admins consider permabanning him. I doubt it, though. Long story short is that it wouldn't solve anything.

True, but aren't they the ones who praised Brutal Doom? So what exactly do you suggest? Maybe people can tweet to Matt Hopper about his behavior? Surely there should be some action taken with the kind of actions demonstrated by the mod author.

iD had endorsed the mod on several occasions. Are you saying that it's perfectly reasonable for them to promote the mod and its author, and on the same breath say that it's unreasonable to expect them to denounce the mod and author when his despicable actions have been brought to light?

Doomguy 2000, I would say go for it.

The best way I think to let them know is by tweeting them. Of course this idea can make a difference if we have multiple people tweeting them about this.

[Marcaek]

What action is necessary?

Don't bother banning him over this.Let him continue to prove what a dick he is so he can alienate more people.

Let people react how they want to his bullshit. If it continues, eventually the problem will take care of itself.