Addressing the Recent Allegations

[Ivan]

As for taking things up to PM, well I would if I cared about this a lot really. Just settle it amongst yourselves :P

As for clinging to the past, our past defines half of us. The other half is defined by our present actions and future ones that have yet to be seen. I use my past as a reference on knowing which horse to bet on, if you know what I mean.

As for forgiveness, forgiving my friends is possible. I don't forgive some random guy out of nowhere, especially if I have no respect for the said person.

[Ruin]

PRO, aka the staff clan, also used to be largely against Spak, as evidenced by those bans. They seem to have changed their mind though!

Let's not drag people who aren't involved in your lovers spat with spak into it. Much Appreciated.

Plus, only 3 (maybe 4 if Cyber is around) active staff are in pro out of a large roster. I hardly call us being a "staff clan". But carry on with the pro shadow government conspiracy theories.

[edd]

edd Wrote:
regardless if that happened or not, i served my time, i don't think you've been granted a position to badger the people who makes those decisions, if they wanted your opinion about year old matters they would have asked for it
Not really served your time if you kept ban-evading and bypassing your sentence. You're about in the same league as KalFoxis and Shadowfox in terms of desperation. I'm not pretending to forget what you've done.

i had an extra 6 months added for alleged evasions, whats your point here

[Cyber']

Alright, I know I'm late to the party, but to clear a few things up, staff isn't favoring either side here before anyone starts thinking otherwise.

Redshirt, bluewiz, whatever from both groups. It's obvious both of you have a past thats stained and it's more obvious that this is going no where. What you've done back then will still stay for a while. So if you, redshirt and crew, really believe that spak's changed why don't you just prove the other wrong by actually showing it constantly for a bit without flaming the other crew. At least this will make you look like the better man and maybe later on that respect may return. The priv server handling is a good start.

The same goes to blue's crew or whoever else feels this is directed to. We don't need feuds like this happening on the boards, that's what clanwars and scrims are for. It's like Jenova said, this thread is dumb and pointless.

I don't care about either side's argument here since neither side is really going to produce anything positive out of this aside from a few headaches and maybe some laughs, but if I see anyone breaking the rules from "either side" from this and future threads, warnings / bans / etc will be handed out accordingly.

[KalFoxis]

seeing how I have nothing to do with this situation at all I'd be happy if you didn't put my name within here as a example about what edd may have done in the past. I don't play this port, I don't play doom much anymore as is. keep the drama to yourselfs and basically just let it go. I mean it's just rumors right? why let that bother you.

[Tenchu]

seeing how I have nothing to do with this situation at all I'd be happy if you didn't put my name within here as a example about what edd may have done in the past. I don't play this port, I don't play doom much anymore as is. keep the drama to yourselfs and basically just let it go. I mean it's just rumors right? why let that bother you.

Around here it takes years and years for stuff in the past to be "let go" and forgotten about. It's not going to happen anytime soon. And to clarify I'm not referring to you specifically, I'm speaking in general.

[Ruin]

I don't care about either side's argument here since neither side is really going to produce anything positive out of this aside from a few headaches and maybe some laughs, but if I see anyone breaking the rules from "either side" from this and future threads, warnings / bans / etc will be handed out accordingly.

Apparently this has been forgotten already. Keep it civil please.