Duel40a (May 27, 2015)

[Strych6]

I liked the old 32-in-24 map, please replace :)

I love UDM3M3, there is no better stage for rocket training

'want exposed back :D

[QuadrumpusGuy]

Hmm... How about SSL.wad?

http://www.doom2.net/~wads/ssl.zip

[one_Two]

goruzig3 (demo included), probably my favorite of the three

I'd like to see this one included too. Although the textures are a bit clashy it plays very well.

[HexaDoken]

At the risk of starting yet another flamewar and getting attacked from all directions by angry people, I'd like to state that judas is one of the most godawful piece of fucks I've ever seen. Ever seen a noob duel map which is basically a random mashup of sectors and items being placed guided by a complete opposite of common sense? Well, I manage to enjoy those more than Judas somehow. I'd rather sign up for an hour of non-stop Shoot than play judas once.

That being said, while I do not consider Shoot a legit duel map whatsoever, I'd really hate to see it wiped. Shoot is not a duel map indeed, but Shoot is Shoot. It's just Shoot. It's unique in it's own weird way.

Also, Hipafrag in duel40. That must happen.

[Zakken]

At the risk of starting yet another flamewar and getting attacked from all directions by angry people, I'd like to state that judas is one of the most godawful piece of fucks I've ever seen. Ever seen a noob duel map which is basically a random mashup of sectors and items being placed guided by a complete opposite of common sense? Well, I manage to enjoy those more than Judas somehow. I'd rather sign up for an hour of non-stop Shoot than play judas once.

That's okay and all, but why would you let us know about that? You're not even suggesting anything here.

Also, Hipafrag in duel40. That must happen.

Kinda agree, Hipafrag can be cool at times.

[QuadrumpusGuy]

At the risk of starting yet another flamewar and getting attacked from all directions by angry people, I'd like to state that judas is one of the most godawful piece of fucks I've ever seen. Ever seen a noob duel map which is basically a random mashup of sectors and items being placed guided by a complete opposite of common sense? Well, I manage to enjoy those more than Judas somehow. I'd rather sign up for an hour of non-stop Shoot than play judas once.

That being said, while I do not consider Shoot a legit duel map whatsoever, I'd really hate to see it wiped. Shoot is not a duel map indeed, but Shoot is Shoot. It's just Shoot. It's unique in it's own weird way.

Also, Hipafrag in duel40. That must happen.

Oh, I already started a flame war (if that is what one would call it) a while back in this thread over Judas23_.

Yes, Judas23_ does have some problems (mainly spawning and prone to BFG Spam, but BFG Spam is actually easy to handle), but it's not as bad as I made it out to be for certain. I was wrong to judge it from a freelook perspective though.

The random mishmash of sectors description seems to describe other maps better than it does describe Judas23_. Seems appropriate for SIPOOMA or the majority of Doom 2 Map01 remakes.

[Danzoa]

This...
Needs...



MORE FUCKIN' DWANGO IN IT SON OF A B-
No really dude i'm dead serious as always. ._.

[mifu]

You know I do not think any map should be removed apart from fuloser. If anything go to duel40 or duel64 :O

EDIT: Oh and that dwango6 map that looks like dwango5 map01 except bigger, that map is not fun to duel on at all :(

[one_Two]

I know it's a classic but I don't think entryway plays very well on duel, I think a duel map has to have all areas linking up in some way or another.

[QuadrumpusGuy]

I know it's a classic but I don't think entryway plays very well on duel, I think a duel map has to have all areas linking up in some way or another.

Agreed. It plays really badly, not to mention the weapon and item distribution is awkward... Two BFGs in the same room? Also trolls can camp at the chainsaw and keep stalling the game.

[Iced]

Just this morning I watched one of the best duels I've seen and it was on Entryway. I see no reason why it should be removed, and it should be considered just as much of a dueling map as any in the wad.

[one_Two]

Has entryway been changed at all for duel(other than weapons)? or is it the same map, but QuadrumpusGuy is right, it has some of the worst spawns ever. The room with the plasma the only way of surviving is by luck if your opponent is on the opposite side of the map, and the aforementioned starting area with 2 bfgs' and an area not even attainable other than by spawning. Maybe it's because I'm pure shit at the map that I don't like it but I've heard it from other people. Maybe don't remove it (and I doubt it would be anyway) I just gotta hope it doesn't come up on random :3

[Catastrophe]

You realize some massive tournaments back in the 1990's was on entryway right? IIRC there was a tourney on that map a while back for a ferrari.

[Zeberpal]

Foxtrot, it was like map01 but better. You could learn fast aim, sensible strafe and quick thinking faster then many other maps. I think it's genius one. Seriosly why it was removed?

[one_Two]

You realize some massive tournaments back in the 1990's was on entryway right? IIRC there was a tourney on that map a while back for a ferrari.

Right, I used to have a demo of Anders Johnsen playing hard on it but can't find it anymore :/ still times change.

[Ivan]

You realize some massive tournaments back in the 1990's was on entryway right? IIRC there was a tourney on that map a while back for a ferrari.

Right, I used to have a demo of Anders Johnsen playing hard on it but can't find it anymore :/ still times change.

And still, that's why the term "classic" lives on.

[Strych6]

ferrari for d2map01? might as well play rock paper scissors

if it was d5m1, a 40 fragger would probably take roughly 48 hours

:D

[Snowgoon]

I can't be bothered to make an indepth post, but I'd suggest the removal of Laz map01, it's just a claustrophobic labyrinth with little gameplay value. Maybe throw in mancerx01 to replace it?

ps. everyone who wants Entryway out of the pack must be out of their goddamn minds.

[Strych6]

^ Laz01 is godly! A corridor map that actually has circulation. Everything entryway needs :P

[katZune]

i like entryway, yes sometimes is annoying those spawns but there are epic matchs, and to be honest i don't like foxtrot, is more a BFG map and a "shoot and guess", i played few times but in those rounds seriously had a bad game, is just awful and i suggest to add the alternate map of judas23_, judas23 as i said before is another version without bfg but add it like duel16 map, switching it by a button