TM challenges HDL, DL

[Reach Term]

Oh look another SPAK trolling BluWiz(and vise versa) conflict.... yawn...

Wake me up when this is over....

That being said, I kinda want to see this clans duke it out. Maybe they're worthy to save the elite-pessimism filled priv.

[Ivan]

As far as a spark is concerned: let it burn. You guys created this situation in the first place with your subterfuge nonsense so you're in no real position to speak on trying to recreate the hardships of the bile you and your ilk is responsible for.

Oh right, there was that one thing too... Yeah, must be sad to get shit talked by the very people you stood up for in the past! Oh the irony.

[edd]

i would challenge a3 to a scrim but u guys seem to be pretty against upper-tier clans playing the lower class pub clans

[Ru5tK1ng]

Yes please don't pick on us. We don't want a repeat of the A3 vs H clanwar. Let us be in peace.

[RedShirt]

i would challenge a3 to a scrim but u guys seem to be pretty against upper-tier clans playing the lower class pub clans

[Metal]

Hey-o. The best thing about this port is clans are free to challenge whomever they please. And if it's a "low-tier" clan with pub status, then maybe it's an opportunity for that clan to actually step up their game and get some decent scrimmage on. I do believe there was a thread stating that the clan scene was declining, so why are we arguing about this? Competition needs to be ignited again around here and TM is offering HDL to step up to the plate. If A3 wants to join in and maybe place a rivalry battle against TM then that would make things nice and interesting.

So if TM and A3 want to duke it out, I'd suggest making a different thread so we can await replies from HDL in this one.

There's a difference between competitive shit talk ("You guys suck ass, duel/scrim us") and flame-bait/drama. Let's try to keep this thread on the right tracks.

[Samurai]

doooooooooooooooom

[Ruin]

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[Reach Term]

Oh look another SPAK trolling BluWiz(and vise versa) conflict.... yawn...

Wake me up when this is over....

That being said, I kinda want to see this clans duke it out. Maybe they're worthy to save the elite-pessimism filled priv.

Aren't you supposed to be gone

kayfabe.

[Cruduxy]

Challenge them in chex ctf.. that way none gets humilated. oh wait!

[IdeIdoom]

Multiplayer -> Ignore Player
Problem Solved. But there wouldn't be such a funny thread to read.

[Ivan]

Yes please don't pick on us. We don't want a repeat of the A3 vs H clanwar. Let us be in peace.

Yes, exactly this. Be the forum-cowboys you are, and maybe play pub.

[Tenchu]

Skip the bullish, when are we gonna see TM vs A3? There's enough trash talk on both sides to make it happen.

[Reach Term]

I can give you the outcome.
http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=939

[SlowMotioN]

Hello, first of all, I want to introduce myself in this forum, I'm new user.
I am a Hispanic player and recently I found out this post. Also want to apologize in advance for my bad English. I confess that I am writing this with the help of Google translator.

I want to clarify that I am the clan leader HDL. This clan does not have much time since it was founded. All members of HDL are lovers of Doom. Many of us have channels on YouTube with videos about this great FPS.

We play doom since we were little children. Some of us were Zdaemon players.

Since we started using the tag "HDL" in many Zandronum servers, we have received many insults, and many players have said that our clan is shit without any reason to do so. This offends us a lot because we only seek play calmly, and do not like to have bad relationships with people.

I quickly read this post and I really appreciate to Hammerfest by what he said. We did not start verbally assaulting anyone, and happily we have evidence of this, as the logs showed by Hammerfest. We said that the clan TM is shit just to defend our moral integrity and our Clan.

Many Zandronum players hate us just for the sake of being a Hispanic clan, and honestly this seems ridiculous. In my personal opinion it is a manifestation of xenophobia, because being Hispanic, being born in Latin America, it has absolutely nothing wrong.
Speaking Spanish and non English, that's wrong? . Is true that only Americans or Germans, etc., can play calmly in Zandronum?

Surely we do not have much experience in duels, or in CTF matches as you. But that is no reason for underestimate us or treat us like some noobs.
Our clan Scrim would gladly accept one. But this time will not do it because the reasons that TM have to challenge HDL are not positive. Just want to raise his ego and make HDL appear to be a vain Clan

In addition HDL clan just starting out, we must practice, gain a better level, then we are prepared to accept any challenge. We do not believe to be the best clan, for that we still need a lot of practice but we will improve our skill.

To conclude let me know if I can advertise my clan on this forum. In this way more people would know it and that's what we're looking for now, since we are very few members.

Many times in the game I can not argue much to defend myself or defend my clan, because I have not a good command of English, that is why I wrote this, I repeat, I did it with the help of Google translator.

So without further ado, I say goodbye and I hope this matter is cleared up, greetings.

[Impact]

Wow.

What slowmotion said is pretty much what we should all be doing to have a happy community, but he's right: egos, xenophobia and general ignorance do get in the way sometimes. I have a lot of respect for you, and if you need to practice CTF before playing high-tier clans then you can always pop on irc.zandronum.net and ask people, and eventually play matches with <N> and [VGL].

You can advertise your clan here.

[Iced]

Okay, hold on, Slowmotion. Maybe you should slow down even more. If you reread the entire thread, it was said multiple times that the HDL member that called our clan shit ws not attacked in any way shape or form. The people we were talking to at first were people who had no visible affiliation with HDL whatsoever, and your member chimed in and pitched his two cents when we weren't even talking to him. I'll iterate it again: your member called us bad before we even said a word to him. If Hammerfest had posted the entire logs like I asked him to, or if someone else had the time on their hands to go back and do so, it would be clear. So, I'm sure you feel like your clan doesn't want any trouble, but in reality, one of your members was the one who rustled it up.

Now, let's make this civil. We challenged you to a scrim. Will you accept? Or decline?

Edit: Also, to be clear, we've got a Finn, a Frenchman, and a Costa Rican in our clan, as well as the various ethnicities of those of us who live in the U.S. It should be 100% we're challenging you because you're Hispanic and we have xenophobia. That's a little... Outlandish.

[Guardsoul]

But this time will not do it because the reasons that TM have to challenge HDL are not positive. Just want to raise his ego and make HDL appear to be a vain Clan

Iced, I think its clear enough. Let them some days/weeks for training and try it again later (and without creating a drama post).

[Iced]

I thought it was pretty clear that those AREN'T the reasons we're challenging them, and I figured that him understanding that would help change his mind. Oh well.

[IdeIdoom]

Many Zandronum players hate us just for the sake of being a Hispanic clan, and honestly this seems ridiculous. In my personal opinion it is a manifestation of xenophobia, because being Hispanic, being born in Latin America, it has absolutely nothing wrong.
Speaking Spanish and non English, that's wrong? . Is true that only Americans or Germans, etc., can play calmly in Zandronum?

No. For zandronum players, the player base consists of brits, italians, germans, dutch, Northern Europe, some romanians, some hungarians, some turkish and 3+ israelians (correct me if I am wrong). Also americans, canadians and mexicans. We do have hispanic players who are pretty known here (Spider, Zakken/Soul, Infer, Reckkk). It's not xenophobia for that matter. But I think you were with the wrong people. If you really have a clan, go to duel servers, PUB CTF, try getting a priv pass. Also, referring to Water's guide, watch replays of good players playing and learn what's wrong and what's right and practice. But, you must know who you want to have ego around and who you don't wanna. Because if you don't know who you call out "bad", you might get drama/challenging threads like this.