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Re: Major Best Ever moderation change

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Post by Dynamo » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:10 am

In any case, I personally believe this thread has run its course. We can argue about the ups and downs all day but I think the decision is now final and the community will adjust itself accordingly. It's not the end of the world, we'll survive. As Jenova himself said, TSPG is available for your hosting needs, and should prove to be an excellent alternative.
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Re: Major Best Ever moderation change

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Post by Ænima » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:10 am

Ya'll are being petty. I was like "tl;dr" after page 3.

Jenova's always been a cool dude to me and always helped me out whenever I had a question. If nobody's getting banned and BE isn't ending then I don't know why this thread isn't locked yet. Mobius isn't getting banned either and neither is Decay. And I think the current moderation is doing a pretty good job in comparison to admin teams in years past.

I'd like to think that the majority of Zandronum players are blissfully unaware of the years-old clan beefs that have been brought up here.
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Re: Major Best Ever moderation change

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Post by Dynamo » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:12 am

Ænima wrote:I'd like to think that the majority of Zandronum players are blissfully unaware of the years-old clan beefs that have brought up here.
This is very true. So many players are sadly completely unaware on the context and background of a lot of the situations, so I udnerstand why their judgement is only partial. Still, always time to learn I guess :)

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Re: Major Best Ever moderation change

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Post by Nati46 » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:13 am

Mobius wrote:
Nati46 wrote:muh history
You, jenova, and whoever else

https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... =80#p98735

Has not been refuted. How about when you tried to derail my WoC tournament thread with your bullshit and I had to report you because you are a notorious troll and topic derailer. That was a month ago.
This?

Legitimately asked a question (I have been inactive for a while and genuinely did not hear of WoC), recieved a cheeky answer and wrote a cheeky reply. After that the thread continued as is. Btw I did not know that you actually reported me for that lmao.
Nice projecting btw.
I will let Jen speak for himself.
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Re: Major Best Ever moderation change

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Post by Jwarrier » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:14 am

John Zombie wrote: I remember a number of instances where EG mass-joined priv, picked each other whenever one of them was cap and then proceeded to, well, "barely putting any effort in games" if you prefer calling it like that.
I even asked other people(just a couple, not 3000 like jenova's ghost supporters) if they remembered that and they confirmed, so it's definitely not my memory acting up. Take at least some responsability for your own actions
Yes we picked each other, that strategy has been around since the start of doom CTF with all sorts of clans. In some cases we even picked our members like Stan and Boko who were not the best players but NEVER ONCE got a chance to play. Considering people were banned in that same time frame for throwing games, than that would mean we would have been reported OR warned OR heard anything about this before your completely ghosted random memory. Before you start saying this happened during our Friday events we logged what we did and we never once played PRIV on those dates, we instead did FNF, scrims, survival, and inter-clan tournaments.

BTW I remember this one time when you disconnected during a priv game because you were upset about something with the teams, so what?

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Re: Major Best Ever moderation change

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Post by IdeIdoom » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:22 am

Nati46 wrote:
This?

Legitimately asked a question (I have been inactive for a while and genuinely did not hear of WoC), recieved a cheeky answer and wrote a cheeky reply. After that the thread continued as is. Btw I did not know that you actually reported me for that lmao.
Nice projecting btw.
I will let Jen speak for himself.
The only cheeky part was at the end, really (The Israeli pilot part). He answered fairly to your question. And if you bothered to search up the forums, you could've found the thread for the mod.
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Re: Major Best Ever moderation change

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Post by Nati46 » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:25 am

IdeIdoom wrote:
Nati46 wrote:
This?

Legitimately asked a question (I have been inactive for a while and genuinely did not hear of WoC), recieved a cheeky answer and wrote a cheeky reply. After that the thread continued as is. Btw I did not know that you actually reported me for that lmao.
Nice projecting btw.
I will let Jen speak for himself.
The only cheeky part was at the end, really (The Israeli pilot part). He answered fairly to your question. And if you bothered to search up the forums, you could've found the thread for the mod.
In that case then so did I, after all we haven't seen him around for a while...

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Re: Major Best Ever moderation change

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Post by Ru5tK1ng » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:29 am

Jwarrier wrote: So your point is that because you have a quote of me saying I would report every time you or your crew harassed another community member in hopes the administration would finally stand up against you?
No, my point was that you made it your personal crusade to get rid of us. The fact you had to be told to stop abusing the reporting feature shows you were excessively using it.
I did not start anything, you guys did. You came into our TS spamming me constantly to lure me out of our locked channel and verbally assaulted me until you got a rise out of me.
Going senile? It was stated earlier you started that incident when you shit talked killstrike for leaving EG. Said your clan was better and ours was a joke, etc. We called you out to scrim and you backed out. We joined Armada to get you to play us. You eventually agreed. You stated in those logs you could have done a lot of things, ban, ignore, kick, but you chose to go play. You call us children but you aren't acting like an adult who takes responsibility for their actions. You talked your shit, you got rekt in the scrim and you got the short end of the stick. Not my problem.
After that night was over Raz continued to rename himself on public servers until he was reported to admins regarding the ongoing harassment. This also continued on a regular basis where your crew would randomly join TS with your nicks of "Beats his kid" or "Drunk Daddy" and I would kick/ban the accounts or ignore and reported them to TSPG constantly.
The ones responsible were reprimanded and told to stop and those events did. You probably wanted a perma ban but it wasn't your server. Tough luck.
Mobius would regularly sit in the server until I logged on and then un-mute immediately the second I joined the server. The fact that nobody on TSPG seemed to care caused me to give up on moderating that team speak server and eventually stop connecting to it all-together. My reports on the forums were ignored and when I private messaged admins about the issue I was told to stop reporting, that I was causing drama.
Mobius was warned to stop those actions by Mifu and he complied. He eventually was banned from Armada by helten.
My thread on Decay which showcased his negative and destructive flaming of community members in a very small sample size of ALL of his most recent posts led to me being told I was "well known for hating Decay" and so nothing mattered. My point isn't my feelings towards the A3 children, my point is that no one on the administration cares enough to do anything about an obvious issue.
So nothing was done then? Too bad, I recall TTA stating the next ban Decay gets is permanent. He's on a thin line, but apparently you wanted more and disagreed with the staff's decision. Unlike you, the staff isn't emotionally charged and made a decision they felt was necessary.
It is public knowledge that they use my family to antagonize me just as it is public knowledge that I am "easily antagonized" and not well liked.

No one told you to let your wife go on TS and get involved in that incident. Being easily antagonized is a personal problem.
But every time I say anything, private or public, I am the drama starter.
Ever consider the way you present yourself and your case is less than ideal? Smug and emotionally charged.
I don't save a million quotes on my HDD in specially named folders like I'm sure you all do (from your constant source material),
Nice projection. Logs are saved in the mIRC directory.
but a simple forum search will show you that my name was brought up and I was attacked multiple times before I even posted my first post in months yesterday night. Quote that.
What's your point? Everyone gets shit talked whether they can read it or not. You've shit talked us in servers and IRC and big deal. We don't play with you, we don't talk to you, and our paths don't cross. You wanted to fuck with us and you lost, get over it.

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Re: Major Best Ever moderation change

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Post by Hammerfest- » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:31 am

Just to point out, and to my knowledge, admitting to DDoSing people as far as the RCMP and the equivalent to us (us as in the United States) is concerned no matter how when it happened can be a pretty severe issue if the people who were victim to it decide to bring it up to the proper authorities along with this confession. Even then, anyone can just cut and paste this too if they want to really see someone get into shit.

But hey its your grave man.

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Re: Major Best Ever moderation change

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Post by Mobius » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:35 am

Record straight: We didn't troll EG on Teamspeak after the TS incident because you formed COD after. Correct me with a log please or timestamps, because I got banned and in trouble on the ts before.
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Re: Major Best Ever moderation change

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Re: Major Best Ever moderation change

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Post by Nati46 » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:40 am

Hammerfest- wrote:Just to point out, and to my knowledge, admitting to DDoSing people as far as the RCMP and the equivalent to us (us as in the United States) is concerned no matter how when it happened can be a pretty severe issue if the people who were victim to it decide to bring it up to the proper authorities along with this confession. Even then, anyone can just cut and paste this too if they want to really see someone get into shit.

But hey its your grave man.
The victims in question have not done any of that and It is likely that the statute of limitations in this case will render it null (or the court will probably just not look into it)
Either way good luck getting concrete proof/confession here.

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Re: Major Best Ever moderation change

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Post by Mobius » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:41 am

Nati46 wrote:
Hammerfest- wrote:Just to point out, and to my knowledge, admitting to DDoSing people as far as the RCMP and the equivalent to us (us as in the United States) is concerned no matter how when it happened can be a pretty severe issue if the people who were victim to it decide to bring it up to the proper authorities along with this confession. Even then, anyone can just cut and paste this too if they want to really see someone get into shit.

But hey its your grave man.
The victims in question have not done any of that and It is likely that the statute of limitations in this case will render it null (or the court will probably just not look into it)
Either way good luck getting concrete proof/confession here.
He's confessed everywhere including the capo thread and Legion's video.
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Re: Major Best Ever moderation change

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Post by Nati46 » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:44 am

Mobius wrote:
Nati46 wrote:
Hammerfest- wrote:Just to point out, and to my knowledge, admitting to DDoSing people as far as the RCMP and the equivalent to us (us as in the United States) is concerned no matter how when it happened can be a pretty severe issue if the people who were victim to it decide to bring it up to the proper authorities along with this confession. Even then, anyone can just cut and paste this too if they want to really see someone get into shit.

But hey its your grave man.
The victims in question have not done any of that and It is likely that the statute of limitations in this case will render it null (or the court will probably just not look into it)
Either way good luck getting concrete proof/confession here.
He's confessed everywhere including the capo thread and Legion's video.
If anybody wants to go as far as involve cross-country laws for something like this, they can go ahead. Refer to my post on the other thread for info.

Haven't seen you reply to what I said earlier btw m8.

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Re: Major Best Ever moderation change

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Post by John Zombie » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:44 am

Jwarrier wrote: Yes we picked each other, that strategy has been around since the start of doom CTF with all sorts of clans. In some cases we even picked our members like Stan and Boko who were not the best players but NEVER ONCE got a chance to play. Considering people were banned in that same time frame for throwing games, than that would mean we would have been reported OR warned OR heard anything about this before your completely ghosted random memory. Before you start saying this happened during our Friday events we logged what we did and we never once played PRIV on those dates, we instead did FNF, scrims, survival, and inter-clan tournaments.
If you never heard anything/got warned it's most likely due to the fact alexmax hardly answers to anything/people just couldn't get bothered reporting it(myself included).

I'd agree on the "completely ghosted random memory" bit if it wasn't for the fact that like I said, other people confirmed as well that it was happening quite frequently.
But wait, I guess their memory must be completely ghosted and random as well, so what do we have here?
Jwarrier wrote:
John Zombie wrote:
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Honestly I would be more concerned about people turning privs into total crap with their clan stacking/dumb trolling instead of judging people trying to keep competition alive on this wrecked port, just saying
How long you been playing doom man? There has been and will always be nothing but trolling, clan stacking, dumb ass players. You can either spend your time bitching and complaining about it or you can have fun playing the game and live with the stupidity. I mean seriously you can try any other game with multi-player and get the same results every time. The world is full of idiots. I'm not ashamed to admit I'm one of them. :)

P.S. I love how my posts draw in JZ and Samurai every time. Two peas in a pod I guess.
I guess the forum database with you straight up admitting it is completely ghosted and random too?
Anyway that's not the point, we'll get there in a while
Jwarrier wrote: BTW I remember this one time when you disconnected during a priv game because you were upset about something with the teams, so what?
I don't know what you're on about, but I don't deny it might have happened, I'm certainly no saint.
Point is unlike someone else I don't go around playing the victim card and lecture other people about lack of maturity while pretty much being a jackass myself. You feel me? :wink:

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Re: Major Best Ever moderation change

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Post by Catastrophe » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:49 am

Well congratulations guys, you did it. Rip BE.

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Re: Major Best Ever moderation change

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Post by Dynamo » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:54 am

Catastrophe wrote:Well congratulations guys, you did it. Rip BE.
Nobody here did anything except one person:
<Jenova> .killall
<BestBot> Killed a total of 149 servers.
<Jenova> .quit
* BestBot has quit (Connection closed)
Let's not pretend otherwise, now.

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Post by Ru5tK1ng » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:54 am

Catastrophe wrote:Well congratulations guys, you did it. Rip BE.
Did what? Jenova pulled the plug himself because he didn't get his way.

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Re: Major Best Ever moderation change

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Post by Catastrophe » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:56 am

Just pat yourselves on the back, you guys finally did it. Congratulations.

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Re: Major Best Ever moderation change

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Post by Dynamo » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:05 am

Catastrophe wrote:Just pat yourselves on the back, you guys finally did it. Congratulations.
Just like I said to Jenova, repeating the same thing 50000 times isn't going to make your argument more logical or complete, it just makes one look unable to have a coherent discussion.

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