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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0001165Zandronum[All Projects] Bugpublic2012-11-04 03:592017-12-15 01:28
ReporterTosen 
Assigned ToLeonard 
PrioritynormalSeveritymajorReproducibilityalways
Statusneeds reviewResolutionopen 
PlatformMicrosoftOSWindowsOS VersionXP/Vista/7
Product Version1.0 
Target Version3.1Fixed in Version 
Summary0001165: Odd symbols when using \t and \r make it impossible to use Timidity++
DescriptionSo I decided to attempt and get Timidity back on my computer after having moved from Skulltag to Zandronum. When I typed timidity_exe and pointed it to the exe with a \timidity.exe, it replaced \t with an odd square symbol.

Also when you type \r in the console, you get a play button symbol.
Steps To ReproduceGo into the console, and type \r or \t.
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User avatar (0005309)
unknownna (updater)
2012-11-04 08:01
edited on: 2012-11-04 08:04

You can also use "\c", "\n" and "\x".

User avatar (0018694)
Edward-san (developer)
2017-11-01 01:14

Hold on. Does it happen with GZDoom 1.8.6? If yes, how about latest GZDoom (3.2.1)?
User avatar (0018728)
Leonard (developer)
2017-11-02 14:47

It doesn't, I checked.
I already know what's going on here, this is due to a really dumb difference between Zandronum and GZDoom.
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Wololo (reporter)
2017-11-27 12:04
edited on: 2017-11-27 12:07

You shouldn't use the "old" method that relies on ancient special compilation of timidity.exe, it's borderline broken, creates cracking sounds on midi track start/stop, random instrument distortions and other unpleasant effects.

What you should do is get Timidity++ CVS version from here
https://ja.osdn.net/projects/twsynth/releases/36408 [^]
This will install Timidity++ with standalone windows player AND a timidity driver, configuration is simple, you put your timidity.cfg into C:\WINDOWS, do a single reboot after installing and you should have Timidity Driver listed in your Zandro sound options, just like I've got it - https://i.imgur.com/mCNGnDL.jpg [^]
Now you can enjoy the Timidity++ sound free from all the sound glitches.
Other games can use it as well.

As a bonus note, there is a newer CVS version 2.14.0 but it's served without installer, after you install the one from previous link you can use just slap in those files as upgrade if you want to https://sourceforge.net/projects/timidity/files/TiMidity%2B%2B/TiMidity%2B%2B-CVS/ [^] I suppose that will require replacing timiditydrv.dll in Windows\System32 [in case of 32bit Windows] or Windows\SysWOW64 folder [64bit Windows], which may require more advanced steps to update it [unregistering and re-registering .dll via CMD -> cd c:\windows\syswow64 -> regsvr32.exe -u timiditydrv.dll -> delete the old .dll and put in the new .dll in the syswow64 folder -> regsvr32.exe timiditydrv.dll] so consider the manual update as a poweruser option.

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Edward-san (developer)
2017-11-27 13:41
edited on: 2017-11-27 13:41

Quote
You shouldn't use the "old" method that relies on ancient special compilation of timidity.exe, it's borderline broken


You can bring this info in the ZDoom forum, since this is something for the developers over there about it.

This ticket has nothing to do with Timidity itself.

In any case, there's a workaround: just edit the config file and write the path in the timidity_exe option entry.

User avatar (0018924)
Wololo (reporter)
2017-11-27 14:04

Quote
You can bring this info in the ZDoom forum, since this is something for the developers over there about it.

Graf doesn't really care, especially when their "special timidity.exe version" is considered legacy code leftover before audio revamp that happened at some point during 2.X series.
I think there was even discussion in this regard at old skulltag forum with general consensus being "just don't use zdoom timidity.exe".

Other places like doomworld or odamex wiki tell you straight how to set up timidity driver, so in this case someone should rather update zdoom wiki instead with timidity driver method.
Anyway I'm gonna link them in as those two are most comprehensive guides how to set up Timidity++.
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/51868-how-to-install-and-set-up-timidity-driver/ [^]
https://odamex.net/wiki/Timidity#Install_the_Timidity_driver [^]
User avatar (0018964)
Leonard (developer)
2017-12-15 01:28

PR.

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- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2012-11-04 03:59 Tosen New Issue
2012-11-04 08:01 unknownna Note Added: 0005309
2012-11-04 08:02 unknownna Status new => confirmed
2012-11-04 08:04 unknownna Note Edited: 0005309 View Revisions
2012-11-04 09:29 unknownna Severity minor => major
2017-11-01 00:17 Leonard Assigned To => Leonard
2017-11-01 00:17 Leonard Status confirmed => assigned
2017-11-01 01:14 Edward-san Note Added: 0018694
2017-11-01 01:14 Edward-san Status assigned => feedback
2017-11-02 14:47 Leonard Note Added: 0018728
2017-11-02 14:47 Leonard Status feedback => assigned
2017-11-12 22:18 Dusk Relationship added related to 0001564
2017-11-26 18:08 Leonard Target Version => 3.1
2017-11-27 12:04 Wololo Note Added: 0018922
2017-11-27 12:07 Wololo Note Edited: 0018922 View Revisions
2017-11-27 13:41 Edward-san Note Added: 0018923
2017-11-27 13:41 Edward-san Note Edited: 0018923 View Revisions
2017-11-27 14:04 Wololo Note Added: 0018924
2017-12-15 01:28 Leonard Note Added: 0018964
2017-12-15 01:28 Leonard Status assigned => needs review






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