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0004385Zandronum[All Projects] Suggestionpublic2024-08-16 06:072024-08-26 09:36
unknownna 
Kaminsky 
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0004385: [3.2] Change "1st 2nd 3rd" place colors on scoreboard from blue, red and green
After looking at the new scoreboard, I thought it would maybe be a good idea to change the ranking colors from "1st blue", "2nd red" and "3rd green" to colors that match gold, silver and bronze, that are more traditionally used for 1st, 2nd and 3rd rankings.
Maybe use gold or yellow for 1st, dark gray or tan for 2nd, and orange or dark brown for 3rd.

Using yellow for 1st would make it not clash with the header color above it.

See the attached mock-up screenshots.
It would perhaps make it slightly easier to read the scoreboard since you wouldn't see the darker red and blue colors as rankings that feel more like team colors.
Changing it however would definitely transform the look and feel of the scoreboard.
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related to 0001829resolved Kaminsky Customizable scoreboard 
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png 3rd_orange.png (18,259) 2024-08-16 06:08
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Issue History
2024-08-16 06:07unknownnaNew Issue
2024-08-16 06:07unknownnaFile Added: 1st_gold.png
2024-08-16 06:07unknownnaFile Added: 1st_yellow.png
2024-08-16 06:08unknownnaFile Added: 2nd_darkgray.png
2024-08-16 06:08unknownnaFile Added: 3rd_darkbrown.png
2024-08-16 06:08unknownnaFile Added: 3rd_orange.png
2024-08-18 04:11KaminskyNote Added: 0023950
2024-08-18 04:11KaminskyAssigned To => Kaminsky
2024-08-18 04:11KaminskyStatusnew => needs review
2024-08-18 04:11KaminskyTarget Version => 3.2
2024-08-18 04:12KaminskyRelationship addedrelated to 0001829
2024-08-18 08:49unknownnaNote Added: 0023958
2024-08-18 08:49unknownnaStatusneeds review => feedback
2024-08-25 13:28KaminskyNote Added: 0023966
2024-08-25 13:28KaminskyStatusfeedback => needs review
2024-08-25 14:37KaminskyNote Edited: 0023966bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=23966#r14357
2024-08-25 14:37KaminskyStatusneeds review => needs testing
2024-08-26 09:36unknownnaNote Added: 0023972
2024-08-26 09:36unknownnaStatusneeds testing => resolved
2024-08-26 09:36unknownnaFixed in Version => 3.2
2024-08-26 09:36unknownnaResolutionopen => fixed

Notes
(0023950)
Kaminsky   
2024-08-18 04:11   
'https://foss.heptapod.net/zandronum/zandronum-stable/-/merge_requests/170 [^]'

This merge request changes the text colours used to colourize rank ordinals on the scoreboard (and large frag messages) to more traditional colours used for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place rankings:

- Blue to yellow or gold (1st)
- Red to dark grey or silver (2nd)
- Green to brown or bronze (3rd)
(0023958)
unknownna   
2024-08-18 08:49   
Thanks for looking into this!

I just want to confirm 2 things before marking this as resolved, since this is also going to affect the large frag messages.

* I installed Quake 3 again, and it seems that it uses blue for 1st, red for 2nd and yellow for 3rd. I assume Skulltag was trying to emulate this look, but using green for 3rd instead of yellow. If we change these colors now, we deviate from this older Quake 3 look and move on to something new. I hope this is ok. At least I think the newer colors are easier to read with the smaller Doom font.

* Did you deliberately use brown instead of dark brown for 3rd? Just want to be sure if it looked better to you. I think dark brown might look better personally, but I play with high gamma so it probably looks different to me.
(0023966)
Kaminsky   
2024-08-25 13:28   
(edited on: 2024-08-25 14:37)
Quote from "unknownna"
I installed Quake 3 again, and it seems that it uses blue for 1st, red for 2nd and yellow for 3rd. I assume Skulltag was trying to emulate this look, but using green for 3rd instead of yellow. If we change these colors now, we deviate from this older Quake 3 look and move on to something new. I hope this is ok. At least I think the newer colors are easier to read with the smaller Doom font.


While Skulltag tried to mimic Quake 3 on a lot of things, including the old scoreboard and medal system, I don't think it matters if we deviate from this. At this point, a lot of things from the Skulltag era that are reminiscent of Quake 3 have changed significantly. The newer text colours here look better and fit with the more traditional use of colours used for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place.

Quote from "unknownna"
Did you deliberately use brown instead of dark brown for 3rd? Just want to be sure if it looked better to you.


I'll admit, I didn't take a very close look at your screenshot(s) to notice that you were actually using the darker brown text colour instead of the regular one (and I entirely missed reading "dark brown" and focused more on "bronze"). My screen was a bit brighter, so it appeared like the latter when I glanced at it. The current brown text colour can still work, but I'll agree that dark brown works better.

It wasn't a big deal to change this:'https://foss.heptapod.net/zandronum/zandronum-stable/-/commit/ab45af7bfb8eb0fcd616afac984f185c78fefbc7 [^]'

(0023972)
unknownna   
2024-08-26 09:36   
I'm glad to hear that. In that case, this works perfectly and can be marked as resolved. Thanks!