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0003773Doomseeker[All Projects] Epicpublic2020-03-22 09:112021-08-07 16:52
WubTheCaptain 
Zalewa 
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0003773: "Put populated servers on top" may not be necessary
Because of issues 0003771 and 0003772, I thought about a question to myself (again): Is this feature necessary?

It's possible to sort by player count, then sort additionally by ping (or other table column). I toyed around with this few months ago. (Attachment 1)

Unfortunately, the usability might be limited because sorting by ping and then doing additional sorting by player count may not work as you expect. But if it did, then would there be any reason for "put populated servers on top" anymore? (Attachment 2)
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2020-06-08 13:59WubTheCaptainAssigned To => Zalewa
2021-08-07 16:52Blzut3Statusresolved => closed

Notes
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WubTheCaptain   
2020-03-22 09:17   
I mean, yeah, I understand what exactly it does in attachment 2. But anyway.

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WubTheCaptain   
2020-03-22 09:36   
The question was better described as whether it (or additional sorting) is worth the extra complexity, and cause behind issues mentioned in OP.
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WubTheCaptain   
2020-03-22 09:41   
(edited on: 2020-03-22 09:43)
Attachment 3 (2020-03-22-093920_maim.png) is for full comparison, with "Put populated servers on top" enabled. That is normal behavior.

It does nothing (or gets a bit weird) if you combine it with additional sorting. (Not pictured)

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Zalewa   
2020-06-08 12:34   
Quote from Wub
Is this feature necessary?

Philosophically speaking we could conclude that nothing is necessary.

But is it useful? Yes it is. It is meant to divide the servers into groups, regardless of any other sorting. The ratio of total server count to populated server count makes this useful. The ability to first browse through populated servers and then scroll down to unpopulated ones makes it useful. Taking away options from people makes those people throw severe and unrelated insults at you ;). I'm against removal.
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WubTheCaptain   
2020-06-08 13:59   
You're the maintainer, so I'll take your word on this.