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0003320Doomseeker[All Projects] Suggestionpublic2017-10-29 18:562018-10-27 22:55
0003320: Replace buddies.png (id Software / Doom)
Doomseeker includes a "Buddies" widget, represented in the main window of Doomseeker with an icon of two Doomguys.

It's been proposed for this icon to be replaced for legal encumbrance reasons (copyright) and "freedom" distributions.
Location in source distribution: media/icons/buddies.png
Regarding attachments:

  • Derivative works of Shaking hands icon by Delapouite are licensed under CC BY 3.0 license.

  • System users icons are from the Tango Desktop Project and in the public domain, both original and modified Tango icons.

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related to 0003319feedback  Themes 
related to 0001874closed Zalewa Icon overhaul 
child of 0003237closed WubTheCaptain Non-free files and copyright issues in source archive 
png shaking-hands.png (4,066) 2017-11-01 10:05

png ds-handshake.png (53,115) 2017-11-01 10:07

? buddyballs.xcf (9,473) 2017-11-01 10:23
? System-users.svg (5,267) 2017-11-01 10:29
png shaking-hands-v2.png (3,613) 2017-11-01 10:41

png shaking-hands-v3.png (4,253) 2017-11-01 10:41

png shaking-hands-v4.png (3,447) 2017-11-01 10:41

png ds-handshake-v4.png (49,177) 2017-11-01 10:44

png System-users-doomseeker-v1.png (3,371) 2017-11-01 10:50

png System-users-doomseeker-v2.png (3,262) 2017-11-01 10:57

? System-users-doomseeker-v2.svg (5,313) 2017-11-01 11:24
? System-users-doomseeker-v3.svg (4,394) 2017-11-02 00:51
png System-users-doomseeker-v3.svg.png (3,242) 2017-11-02 00:51

? System-users-doomseeker-v4.svg (4,394) 2017-11-02 00:51
png System-users-doomseeker-v4.svg.png (3,262) 2017-11-02 00:51
Issue History
2017-10-29 18:56WubTheCaptainNew Issue
2017-10-29 18:56WubTheCaptainStatusnew => acknowledged
2017-10-29 18:56WubTheCaptainRelationship addedchild of 0003237
2017-10-29 18:56WubTheCaptainRelationship addedrelated to 0003319
2017-10-29 18:59WubTheCaptainNote Added: 0018657
2017-10-29 19:52ZalewaNote Added: 0018663
2017-10-30 01:23WubTheCaptainStatusacknowledged => confirmed
2017-10-30 01:32WubTheCaptainTarget Version => 1.2
2017-10-31 22:21ZalewaAssigned To => Zalewa
2017-10-31 22:21ZalewaStatusconfirmed => assigned
2017-11-01 10:05ZalewaFile Added: shaking-hands.png
2017-11-01 10:05WubTheCaptainNote Added: 0018695
2017-11-01 10:06WubTheCaptainStatusassigned => needs review
2017-11-01 10:07ZalewaFile Added: ds-handshake.png
2017-11-01 10:09WubTheCaptainNote Added: 0018696
2017-11-01 10:10ZalewaNote Added: 0018697
2017-11-01 10:12WubTheCaptainNote Added: 0018698
2017-11-01 10:20WubTheCaptainRelationship addedrelated to 0001874
2017-11-01 10:23ZalewaFile Added: buddyballs.xcf
2017-11-01 10:23ZalewaNote Added: 0018699
2017-11-01 10:29WubTheCaptainNote Added: 0018700
2017-11-01 10:29WubTheCaptainStatusneeds review => confirmed
2017-11-01 10:29WubTheCaptainFile Added: System-users.svg
2017-11-01 10:31WubTheCaptainNote Edited: 0018700bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=18700#r11239
2017-11-01 10:37WubTheCaptainNote Edited: 0018697bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=18697#r11241
2017-11-01 10:41ZalewaFile Added: shaking-hands-v2.png
2017-11-01 10:41ZalewaFile Added: shaking-hands-v3.png
2017-11-01 10:41ZalewaFile Added: shaking-hands-v4.png
2017-11-01 10:44ZalewaFile Added: ds-handshake-v4.png
2017-11-01 10:45ZalewaNote Added: 0018701
2017-11-01 10:50WubTheCaptainFile Added: System-users-doomseeker-v1.png
2017-11-01 10:51WubTheCaptainNote Added: 0018702
2017-11-01 10:53ZalewaNote Added: 0018703
2017-11-01 10:57WubTheCaptainFile Added: System-users-doomseeker-v2.png
2017-11-01 11:00WubTheCaptainNote Added: 0018704
2017-11-01 11:20ZalewaNote Added: 0018705
2017-11-01 11:24WubTheCaptainFile Added: System-users-doomseeker-v2.svg
2017-11-01 11:25WubTheCaptainNote Added: 0018706
2017-11-01 11:26WubTheCaptainStatusconfirmed => assigned
2017-11-01 12:58ZalewaNote Added: 0018712
2017-11-01 12:58ZalewaStatusassigned => needs review
2017-11-01 13:22WubTheCaptainNote Added: 0018713
2017-11-01 13:22WubTheCaptainAssigned ToZalewa => WubTheCaptain
2017-11-01 13:22WubTheCaptainStatusneeds review => assigned
2017-11-01 13:31WubTheCaptainNote Edited: 0018713bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=18713#r11246
2017-11-01 13:58WubTheCaptainAdditional Information Updatedbug_revision_view_page.php?rev_id=11248#r11248
2017-11-01 16:09ZalewaNote Added: 0018715
2017-11-02 00:51WubTheCaptainFile Added: System-users-doomseeker-v3.svg
2017-11-02 00:51WubTheCaptainFile Added: System-users-doomseeker-v3.svg.png
2017-11-02 00:51WubTheCaptainFile Added: System-users-doomseeker-v4.svg
2017-11-02 00:51WubTheCaptainFile Added: System-users-doomseeker-v4.svg.png
2017-11-02 00:51WubTheCaptainAssigned ToWubTheCaptain => Zalewa
2017-11-02 00:51WubTheCaptainStatusassigned => needs review
2017-11-02 00:54WubTheCaptainNote Added: 0018717
2017-11-02 11:15ZalewaNote Added: 0018721
2017-11-02 11:15ZalewaStatusneeds review => resolved
2017-11-02 11:15ZalewaFixed in Version => 1.2
2017-11-02 11:15ZalewaResolutionopen => fixed
2018-10-27 22:55WubTheCaptainStatusresolved => closed

2017-10-29 18:59   
May I say: As iconic and elegant as the icon is, it's also a noisy icon. It's high-resolution but downscaled, while other icons next to it are fairly low-detail.

I have previously proposed replacing it with Freedoom guys, but I've now thought about it and think two ballhead-body icons (for the lack of better word) would be more in the line of neutral and similar detail.
2017-10-29 19:52   
I think I'll go with this. I don't imagine anyone will complain that the icon has changed and 3319 is too much work just to fix something that we didn't care about for 7 years.
2017-11-01 10:05   
I can like this.
2017-11-01 10:09   
Actually looking afar, it's not as recognizable immediately as I would've wanted. I mistook it for a feral head/fangs/ears.
2017-11-01 10:10   
(edited on: 2017-11-01 10:37)
I attempted at ballheads, but the result was ridiculous so I found this and converted it to Doomseeker's palette. The result is attached. And the screenshot is also.

I personally think that there's too much whitespace in this icon and I also wanted to have something manly like Dutch's & Dillon's but couldn't find a suitable template and I can't draw for shit...

[Edit by WubTheCaptain: Derivative work "shaking-hands.png" of Shaking hands icon by Delapouite under CC BY 3.0 license.]

2017-11-01 10:12   
Do you still have your attempt of ballheads icon available, please?
2017-11-01 10:23   
Partially: [^]

After I added facial features, I couldn't look at it anymore and CTRL+Z'ed it to oblivion.
2017-11-01 10:29   
(edited on: 2017-11-01 10:31)
I can give this a go tomorrow. Trying to use a tango icon as a base (see attachment, public domain): [^]

Maybe accept there to be a fourth color, or use more gradients. Thanks for trying too, we'll get it soon.

2017-11-01 10:45   
After I swapped the colors it seems to look much better: [^]
2017-11-01 10:51   
Zalewa: Yeah, it does look better.

I half-heartedly changed the colors of the suits on System-users.svg, didn't deal with the heads yet. Result is System-users-doomseeker-v1.png.
2017-11-01 10:53   
If balls were replaced with Doomguy-like helmets, it would be okay.
2017-11-01 11:00   
Would a helmet really be necessary, considering the other engines like SRB2 in Doomseeker?
2017-11-01 11:20   
This is still Doomseeker, after all.

The ballheads look much better with their shirts unexposed, though. They might do.
2017-11-01 11:25   
I'll take a poor stab at a helmet tomorrow, need sleep now. If you'd like to try, System-users-doomseeker-v2.svg is the source. Public domain, attribution to the Tango Project (Jakub Steiner) for original.
2017-11-01 12:58   
v2 ballheads are sufficient, so I merged them in: [^] .
2017-11-01 13:22   
(edited on: 2017-11-01 13:31)
I said the system users icon to be a little "half-hearted", as I'm a little unsure of the grayscale gradient color accuracy. I also notice the darker red color is usually layered on top of the lighter color for other Doomseeker icons, but not with this icon yet. The current Doomguys buddies.png is also flipped with left-side person at front, right-side person at back and this icon is the reverse. I'll post v3 tomorrow with the reordered layers.

As courtesy, please attribute the Tango project if you could.

Quote from
Though the tango-icon-theme package is released to the Public Domain, we ask that you still please attribute the Tango Desktop Project, for all the hard work we've done. Thanks.

Thank you for appreciating my contribution! (Really, sleep now.)

2017-11-01 16:09   
Attribution added: [^]
2017-11-02 00:54   
I didn't reorder the layers after all, due to requirement of moving the shadows for perspective correction. It would've taken quite some time in a text editor to do cleanly.

v3 and v4 have been attached.

I believe v3's grays are more accurate to server_details.png and chat.png, although no longer as flat as the red color.

So, I took a freedom and modified the background buddy to also have a subtle gradient in v4 for consistency.
2017-11-02 11:15   
I've went with v3 because reds in all other icons have no gradients.

Let's consider this resolved and move on.