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Bandwidth Usage

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Post by BloodyAcid » Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:44 pm

About how intense in bandwidth usage is Zandronum? Is it comparable in size to the .CLD files from recordings? If not, how much more/less would it be?

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Post by ibm5155 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:18 am

Hmm it tends to eat more compared to skulltag, but it also depends of how many monsters/scripts/other things are running, and how well/optimized they´re

I only saw the scripts bandwidth, with a server side comand, I could fix some "simple" scripts that were eating 1kb/s of bandwidth D:
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Post by Hypnotoad » Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:59 am

Use SV_MeasureOutBoundTraffic and then DumpTrafficMeasure to see bandwidth usage.

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Post by Cruduxy » Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:36 am

It really depends on the wad you play.. Something like chillax is a bandwidth sink and I even saw it consume 3 MB per second.. some wads like WDI take ages to reach 40 mb used etc
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Post by Sicamore » Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:16 pm

Chillax uses 3mb a second? Are you sending a million actor states every second or something because that is damn crazy.
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Post by Yellowtail » Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:54 pm

Remember, Chillax has hundreds, maybe thousands, of monsters in the same room all moving at the same time. Add that with any number of players, projectiles, spawning things... you get the picture.

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Post by mr fiat » Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:04 pm

Yellowtail wrote: Remember, Chillax has hundreds, maybe thousands, of monsters in the same room all moving at the same time. Add that with any number of players, projectiles, spawning things... you get the picture.
i played chillax a few times, i personaly dont find it a very fun wad because it consist of impossible to beat maps that as you said have litterly thousands of monsters in a single room.

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Post by Cruduxy » Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:59 pm

Chillax is terrible but I admit can be fun IF you get a team of trusty players -lol-.
The fun in it is pretty much map dependent.. some maps like map32 are fun to watch while map13 is a @#$# piece of @##% with infinite monsters and insanely boring to watch -why there always is a troll shutting players off server playing it.. it should never be even in maplist-
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Post by Konar6 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:52 pm

In case BloodyAcid was asking for actual bandwidth usage as a client, rather than a whole server usage - type stat nettraffic in console.
The comprehensive list of values shown are: bytes received this tick, bytes received last second, max bytes received per second, bytes sent this tick, bytes sent last second, max bytes sent per second.
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Post by ibm5155 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:35 pm

3mb/s or 40mb/s ? I think it too much, like how could someone play a mod like this one if they don´t have enough internet D:
I really think it´s 3 or even 40kb/s.
Well on zombie horder on my own server the max that I saw was 23kb/s D:.
I think 40mb/s would be like stream a blue-ray movie, it´s too much data for such simple things (I think that a simple imp doesn´t even eat 12bytes of data xD)
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Post by Cruduxy » Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:53 pm

I remember players hosting a holy hell server... all I can say 7 mb connection couldnt even let me connect to server
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Post by Watermelon » Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:25 pm

Depends on the wad.

Zdoomwars = 1000+ monsters = 1000+ position updates = 35000+ updates per second = huge file.

Duels with 2 players are really small.

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Post by Frits » Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:29 pm

It's not bandwidth usage that prevents you from connecting. Missing packets happens on localhost too.

I tried testing it once with konar in what version zandro/98e got worse compared to 98d with loads of monsters. But the results were void because my cpu bottlenecked and i noticed it too late.

As a client chillax on maps like 13 only go to 800 kb/s on connecting/just after connecting.

Someone should look into this really.
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Post by Torr Samaho » Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:39 pm

Frits wrote: I tried testing it once with konar in what version zandro/98e got worse compared to 98d with loads of monsters. But the results were void because my cpu bottlenecked and i noticed it too late.
Well, if Zandronum needs more bandwidth than 98d, then most likely because of bug fixes that make Zandronum send information 98d should have send but didn't.

If any given wad needs too much bandwidth, you could use Zandronum's built in traffic analysis to figure out what's eating the bandwidth. When the culprit is found, we can start thinking about how to optimize the traffic usage.
Frits wrote: As a client chillax on maps like 13 only go to 800 kb/s on connecting/just after connecting.
Sounds as if this is caused by transferring the full update to a newly connecting client.

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Post by ibm5155 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:22 pm

chillax: 34kb/s on map16 (with +-2000 monsters ingame, and most of then actived)
zombie horde:10kb/s on almost all maps

I think it´s a nice result :D

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*___* my map only eats 6kb/s and max 8kb with 12 players (I thinked the ravishing script would kill the bandwidth but it eated less than 1kb :O), it´s weird to know that my map is one of the one that use less band on zombie horde O_o (At least from what I see...
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Post by Cruduxy » Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:35 pm

Hmm actually chillax is nothing bandwidth wise compared to some of the later maps in the wad -Don't know the numbers since not on zan pc but I know one that crashes most people once it starts
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Post by Ænima » Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:46 pm

Konar6 wrote: In case BloodyAcid was asking for actual bandwidth usage as a client, rather than a whole server usage - type stat nettraffic in console.
The comprehensive list of values shown are: bytes received this tick, bytes received last second, max bytes received per second, bytes sent this tick, bytes sent last second, max bytes sent per second.
I think I'll use this from now on. Thanks.
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Post by BloodyAcid » Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:27 am

Konar6 wrote: In case BloodyAcid was asking for actual bandwidth usage as a client, rather than a whole server usage - type stat nettraffic in console.
The comprehensive list of values shown are: bytes received this tick, bytes received last second, max bytes received per second, bytes sent this tick, bytes sent last second, max bytes sent per second.
Cool, that's what I was looking for. Thanks.

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