Wolfenstein: The New Order (New gameplay featuring next-gen watermelon destruction)

[Stiff]

This game made me curious, gonna try it out ASAP

[Slim]

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Welp.

I'm sorry but, seeing that aiming down the sight INSTANTLY killed any Wolfenstein feel this had. Just seems like an attempt by Bethseda to shit out a game to bring in some dough. And adding the "Doom Beta" with it to build hype for when Doom 4 becomes something not even half of what Doom 3 was even. :/

[Hellstorm Archon]

Bethesda just released some brand new gameplay not seen anywhere else.

I'm sorry but, seeing that aiming down the sight INSTANTLY killed any Wolfenstein feel this had. Just seems like an attempt by Bethseda to shit out a game to bring in some dough. And adding the "Doom Beta" with it to build hype for when Doom 4 becomes something not even half of what Doom 3 was even. :/

You do realize that for once, ironsights are completely optional, right?

[Slim]

Bethesda just released some brand new gameplay not seen anywhere else.

I'm sorry but, seeing that aiming down the sight INSTANTLY killed any Wolfenstein feel this had. Just seems like an attempt by Bethseda to shit out a game to bring in some dough. And adding the "Doom Beta" with it to build hype for when Doom 4 becomes something not even half of what Doom 3 was even. :/

You do realize that for once, ironsights are completely optional, right?

Is your aim not fucked to hell when NOT using it? If so I'll change my mind.

[ibm5155]

too bad it'll require such $$$ '-'

[Stiff]

They said that this game will be 3 times sexier than RAGE.
RAGE wasn't that ugly so I'm curious what ID tech 5 will deliver us.
I hope Motion Blur will be there, becouse I really missed this in RAGE.

Does someone know if this game will support Motion Blur?

[TheMightyHeracross]

This looks AWESOME! I'd play that!

(inb4 COD accusations because ADS)

[IdeIdoom]

Bethesda just released some brand new gameplay not seen anywhere else.

I'm sorry but, seeing that aiming down the sight INSTANTLY killed any Wolfenstein feel this had. Just seems like an attempt by Bethseda to shit out a game to bring in some dough. And adding the "Doom Beta" with it to build hype for when Doom 4 becomes something not even half of what Doom 3 was even. :/

You do realize that for once, ironsights are completely optional, right?

Is your aim not fucked to hell when NOT using it? If so I'll change my mind.

To be honest, people that complain of "Modernization" of old games just ruin any hopes of the franchises making a comeback (Doom 3 got a lot of bad rep for not following the originals, while it made a new genre, the survival-horror-ish). I am not bothered of ADS, I just hope for the game to be fun. As any would consider. People just complain when it's different. If it's different, they want it to be like the old one, if it remains the same, people want something different. If you get my point.

[Luke]

Bethesda just released some brand new gameplay not seen anywhere else.

I'm sorry but, seeing that aiming down the sight INSTANTLY killed any Wolfenstein feel this had. Just seems like an attempt by Bethseda to shit out a game to bring in some dough. And adding the "Doom Beta" with it to build hype for when Doom 4 becomes something not even half of what Doom 3 was even. :/

You do realize that for once, ironsights are completely optional, right?

Is your aim not fucked to hell when NOT using it? If so I'll change my mind.

To be honest, people that complain of "Modernization" of old games just ruin any hopes of the franchises making a comeback (Doom 3 got a lot of bad rep for not following the originals, while it made a new genre, the survival-horror-ish). I am not bothered of ADS, I just hope for the game to be fun. As any would consider. People just complain when it's different. If it's different, they want it to be like the old one, if it remains the same, people want something different. If you get my point.

I don't know... Personally, I like fast paced FPS where you can run like crazy while jumping and shooting without having my aim influenced by all this. The gameplay video seems the opposite and shows me almost everything I dislike in FPS': corner's peeking, glowing shades around the items with you can interact, tutorial on hud, ironsights and most of everything the gameplay seems terribly slow, clustered maps.
Then again: I don't know. I'll 'borrow' it from a friend when it will came out, but for what I've seen it won another 'piece of junk' medal from me.

edit:
Let me add how what you said doesn't seem true to me, IdeIdoom: pick Rise of the Triad (remake), pick Serious Sam 3: Battle For Earth, pick Painkiller Hell and Damnation (ok this is just a repack of an old game). I didn't see people complaining about how these games didn't evolve from the past. They maintained the classic gameplay they had and the audience was satisfied with it.
When you see people complaining about how the games have been dumbed down you see poeple talking **** of CoD because it has become a game that feels in constant slowmotion, you see people angry because while you had literally BOOKS written in Morrowind (it had enough things to read to stand the average novel in terms of time it'd take you to read it all) you have stupidly short dialogues in Skyrim, and vampirism and other conditions aren't gamebreaking and well... Skyrim is just dumb.

But I'm afraid I went offtopic. Once again.
I apologise.

[ibm5155]

if people know there're more wolfenstein games after wolf 3D, why do people think wolf 3D was the last one :v

[Kara Kurt]

Skyrim dumb, ok!

This gameplay footage makes me alot remember Metro Last Light; therefore I wonder if it is going to be linear.

The kind of game that once the singleplayer done, quickly becomes devoid of challenges..

[IdeIdoom]

I don't know... Personally, I like fast paced FPS where you can run like crazy while jumping and shooting without having my aim influenced by all this. The gameplay video seems the opposite and shows me almost everything I dislike in FPS': corner's peeking, glowing shades around the items with you can interact, tutorial on hud, ironsights and most of everything the gameplay seems terribly slow, clustered maps.
Then again: I don't know. I'll 'borrow' it from a friend when it will came out, but for what I've seen it won another 'piece of junk' medal from me.

edit:
Let me add how what you said doesn't seem true to me, Idledoom: pick Rise of the Triad (remake), pick Serious Sam 3: Battle For Earth, pick Painkiller Hell and Damnation (ok this is just a repack of an old game). I didn't see people complaining about how these games didn't evolve from the past. They maintained the classic gameplay they had and the audience was satisfied with it.
When you see people complaining about how the games have been dumbed down you see poeple talking **** of CoD because it has become a game that feels in constant slowmotion, you see people angry because while you had literally BOOKS written in Morrowind (it had enough things to read to stand the average novel in terms of time it'd take you to read it all) you have stupidly short dialogues in Skyrim, and vampirism and other conditions aren't gamebreaking and well... Skyrim is just dumb.

But I'm afraid I went offtopic. Once again.
I apologise.

First of all: Idledoom, really?
Second of all: The only example I made was Doom 3, although IT WAS DIFFERENT, I like it and it created a new genre which got popularized by Amnesia. I tried to be general rather than with exceptions.

While your examples are correct, yes, I might fear these games won't change the minds of developers to make a good military shooter game and how it's supposed to be, with good gameplay and balanced things (CoD 4, BF:Bad Company 2) or a good arcade shooter (which you mentioned). They will try to milk in games with ideas from what's popular (Example: Dayz, WarZ, 7 days to survive, etc.) and maybe create an average game or a piece of shit.

[Stiff]

Well okay so this game wont be like wolf3d.
But if I hear about cornerlook and stuff it sounds more to return to castle wolfenstein.

Anyway, war themed games include iron sights and stuff becouse that sounds realistic at the wartheme, "newschool" gamers like those stuff. Machineworks wants the attention of oldschool and newschool gamers so their game will sell better I guess.The group of newschoolgamers is ways bigger than that from oldschool gamers so its logic that they add those elements.

[Hellstorm Archon]

Already, people are complaining in the video comments that's it's going to be another generic shooter. This one Youtuber essentially sums it up:

*Only the first half of the first mission is shown of the first act is shown
*Only partially takes place in a bunker/fortified/castle environment
*An environment which is always gonna have fucking corridors
*Game is ruined, obviously another generic fps, 1/10 would not play comments flood in
*People instantly forget that every FPS has had corridor environments
*Ignore open areas and other environments to focus on one aspect on gameplay found in every FPS
*Ignore the fact Wolfenstein 3D was just corridors, as were all Wolfenstein games
*Ignore trailer gameplay of open environments


This is why we can't have nice things, and most developers won't go near the community. 

[Espio]

Stillllllllllll probably going to blow. I will stand by that statement.

And having the next DooM game accessible in beta only through pre-ordering still sounds fishy..

[Absolute Zero]

What is so wrong with iron sights?

[Slim]

What is so wrong with iron sights?

Well for the reputation they have in newschool fps's, Basically:

1: You get the aim of a hyper kid on sugar or blind man without them.
2: They kill the old school feel.

[Luke]

Already, people are complaining in the video comments that's it's going to be another generic shooter. This one Youtuber essentially sums it up:

*Only the first half of the first mission is shown of the first act is shown
*Only partially takes place in a bunker/fortified/castle environment
*An environment which is always gonna have fucking corridors
*Game is ruined, obviously another generic fps, 1/10 would not play comments flood in
*People instantly forget that every FPS has had corridor environments
*Ignore open areas and other environments to focus on one aspect on gameplay found in every FPS
*Ignore the fact Wolfenstein 3D was just corridors, as were all Wolfenstein games
*Ignore trailer gameplay of open environments


This is why we can't have nice things, and most developers won't go near the community. 

No way! But wait until may and play it to see that I was right and this game is another CoDed game.

[*]You could add iron sights to RTTCW but it would have still been freaking fast, this game feels decently fast when you sprint, when you don't you run at 4km/h (which is realistic but fuck that: I play to have fun not to have a bloody simulator, if I wanted that I'd have played Arma 3).
[*]Corridors, yes. It's clear how this level has been built to give you a false sense of freedom while you're stuck in your corridor (open spaces around you but you're forced to run in the trench, and guess what? You can't even climb a bloody crate, what is this guy? Paraplegic?)
[*]Wolfenstein 3D was just corridors due to platform's limitations, now that we don't have limitations I say "shove your filthy corridors where the sun don't shine or go to sell apples at the market and leave THIS market to competent people". But yes. Profit. God fucking Profit. So yea. Pull out another piece of junk for casual gamers fucking kids.

Oh I'm sorry! Did I get fiery? If anything I swear it wasn't anything personal Archon. I'm just fucking pissed off of listening shit like this when a company fucks up a successfull serie producing a dumbed-down, casual-gamer-friendly product that sells like crazy, gets praised by paid reviewers and pisses the shit out of myself and many other gamers.

And I'm sorry if I said fuck a lot.
Fuck!

[Weiss]

I dunno, I thought it looked good, but then again I'm not a self-entitled "old school" gamer.

Wolf3D and Doom were the first games I remember playing, and I feel fairly confident that this AND Doom 4 will be alright, even if they're not exact fucking carbon copies of what we already have. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[darkstar64]

I dunno, I thought it looked good, but then again I'm not a self-entitled "old school" gamer.

Wolf3D and Doom were the first games I remember playing, and I feel fairly confident that this AND Doom 4 will be alright, even if they're not exact fucking carbon copies of what we already have. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I don't get why people expect these games to have to be old-school copies of the original games. I honestly don't want Doom 4 just to be Doom 2 with prettier visuals, I would rather have it be it's own game.

Same goes for Wolfenstein: The New Order. People can complain about dumb shit like iron-sights and new-school all they want, I'm just glad we're getting a new Wolfenstein game. I'm glad I get to be BJ again and kill more Nazis.