We are aware of the 'wallhack'

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We are aware of the 'wallhack'

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Post by Metal » Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:04 am

I've been getting PM's on IRC about a new wallhack that has been made for Zandronum. I am aware of it, so is the staff (For the most part), and the developers will know very shortly as well.

I'm just going to make a quick FAQ so basic questions are answered.

Do you guys have it? Do you use it?
Yes, we do. No, we don't use it. The only way this would become useful to us is to catch other people using the 'hack' but this is unlikely because people using this tool are often pretty obvious and can be caught with bare eyes.

I think someone is using it! What do?!
Record a freaking demo. Give us the name of the person you believe may be wallhacking. If you're already doing that, notify us, and it would help us tremendously if you came in contact with the server host and got their IP. This is so we can watch the demo, and put a ban in place as soon as we reach a decision.

There aren't any admins online, who do I contact?
Someone is always online in the #staff channel. They may not be available right that minute but we will watch the demo and it will be passed on to the appropriate staff members. Or you can shoot a PM to one of us on the forums with the information.

Can I use the hack to watch other people?
It is highly recommended you do not even download it. When the staff downloads these types of 'hacks' we always load it onto a virtual machine to prevent any malware or other unwanted security issues. We cannot stop you from downloading it to watch people, but you will be banned immediately if you're caught using it.

I used it for one match. You're seriously going to ban me for 1 year?
Yeah. Don't use it at all. In any game mode. Ever.

Who made it and are they banned?
As far as we know, a user named 'slowmotion' created this hack with the help of his friend (or brother?). His English wasn't the greatest but we still got the jist of what he was saying.

What am I looking for when someone is wallhacking?
http://www.mediafire.com/?cv7hkq8etaoyv32
Watch from calamardo tentaculos's view in this demo. You will notice his prediction is much much better than the average players while his actual gameplay skills aren't up to par with his prediction skills. Basically, the people using this cheat are able to see other players through walls. This gives them the advantage of knowing where you are and what you're doing.

If you have any other questions regarding this issue, feel free to ask in this thread.
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Post by TheMightyHeracross » Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:17 am

How do we use that "demo"? I've never heard of a .cld file.
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Post by Cyber' » Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:20 am

A demo used via .cld file is available with the playdemo command.

An easier and simpler way to view .cld demo files can be done if you use IDE. A simple "play" button on the bottom left of IDE will allow you to view downloaded demos.
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Post by Xaver » Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:27 am

I've helped before with tracing hackers, so if you guys need help with demo's let me know.

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Post by Catastrophe » Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:32 am

Wallhack eh? Time to go huntin'

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Post by Ænima » Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:56 am

Yay a new one!


Everytime a new wallhack comes out, it's an opportunity to ban a few more idiots all at once. It's great.
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Post by darkstar64 » Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:50 am

You mean I have an opportunity to get people banned?

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Post by TheSlayerSparrow » Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:38 am

Lol wallhacking, i didn't see them for a long time. It's only part of time :)

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Post by Mr.Man » Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:24 am

Well GL hunting everyone, sadly i cant play online these days due to PC problems :/

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Post by Espio » Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:36 pm

Is it that time to idle and wait for reports in random channels again?

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Post by one_Two » Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:14 pm

Is Slowmotion the HDL guy? I hope not cos we were hoping to scrim them.

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Post by Zeberpal » Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:19 pm

wallhack is too obvious in priv. Or duels. I think this warning referred to people who play mods.
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Post by Impact » Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:51 pm

Zeberpal wrote: wallhack is too obvious in priv. Or duels. I think this warning referred to people who play mods.
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Post by Balrog » Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:53 pm

I made a thread over on CutStuff about this. Hopefully some of the hackers taking refuge there will face swift retribution.

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Post by Metal » Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:56 pm

one_Two wrote: Is Slowmotion the HDL guy? I hope not cos we were hoping to scrim them.
Yes it is.

Zeberpal wrote: wallhack is too obvious in priv. Or duels. I think this warning referred to people who play mods.
It is referring to everyone.
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Post by katZune » Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:30 am

I recorded the "demo" and uploaded it to youtube (for those who are too lazy to load the demo or don't detect the wallhack) i did marked (!) the parts where he obvius is using wallhack
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Post by Metal » Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:43 am

Thanks, Katzune!
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Post by Ænima » Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:39 am

Wow, what a retard.
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Post by Metal » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:02 am

To be honest, if I made the video, there'd be a lot more exclamation points. For example, at 00:47 he is clearly watching Legion through the wall. Who just stands there pressed against a wall when there's no sound happening from the opponent. And on a small map like that you'd hear everything pretty clearly without standing against a wall. Silly.
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Post by Ænima » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:10 am

Yeah 0:47 is pretty much the point in the video that definitively confirms that that guy wallhacks.
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