Doomseeker 0.9 with Zandronum - Windows&Mac

[Zalewa]

Doomseeker 0.9 Beta has been released. http://doomseeker.drdteam.org/download.php

[spoiler]Hi.

This is an unofficial build of Doomseeker 0.9 with Zandronum plugin.

DRD Team page:
http://svn.drdteam.org/doomseeker/

Direct link:
Windows: doomseeker-0.9_Beta-120807-1903.zip
Mac OS X: doomseeker-0.9_Beta-120604-0540-with-Zandronum-support.dmg

Zandronum plugin is almost a direct copy&paste of Skulltag plugin, so all Skulltag features should now also be available for Zandronum. Let me know if there are any problems.

Important note:
Because the query protocol is the same for both games then the plugins may come in conflict. Zandronum servers will be detected by Skulltag plugin and vice-versa. This isn't something we can easily work around, unless we completely remove and block Skulltag plugin in future releases of Doomseeker. This is a solution but it's not a very good one if anyone would want to use one of the Skulltag builds for some reason.
The current Doomseeker build comes with both plugins, so to avoid conflicts don't have them both enabled at the same time.

Important note 2:
You may use Zandronum plugin to join both Skulltag and Zandronum servers. Go to the configuration (F5), go to "Query → Zandronum" and point the official game path to skulltag.exe. Then enable "testing releases" and select a directory where you would like to store them. Provided that you specified a correct, writeable directory Doomseeker should take care of the rest.[/spoiler]

[Vordenko]

Works neat, But I got a question.
Since I have all my wads on different folders, if I add a path on the File paths option, to a folder that has a subfolder in it, would it automatically also use the subfolder? or do I have to set it too?

[Blzut3]

Uploaded a build for Mac OS X (although I didn't test it).

Works neat, But I got a question.
Since I have all my wads on different folders, if I add a path on the File paths option, to a folder that has a subfolder in it, would it automatically also use the subfolder? or do I have to set it too?

I'm fairly sure Doomseeker doesn't do recursive searches so you must include all directories in the file paths.

[mistamontiel]

I've used a recent-ish Doomseeker for a while. About says it's v0.8 Beta-690. I'll set either skulltag.exe or zandronum.exe as Skulltag, and they work

But..

my Masterserver Address is still set to master.skulltag.net:15300 . I have to restart Doomseeker to get list of servers, which takes 10-15 seconds, saying despite it's working for ST and Z..

The thing I'm concerned about, if I got an extra Doomseeker exclusively for Zandronum, they share settings, older or newer Doomseeker will never differ. Well hopefully that's changed..

[DevilHunter]

Try typing in "master.zandronum.com:15300" should get a response there.. Master.skulltag.net is down for now.

Also: > http://wiki.skulltag.net/Master_Server_Transition

[mistamontiel]

Yeh I know. For some reason, the following day my server was not visible on the ST Masterserver.. so I hope everyone's stepped up their Masterserver

The old ST address would query servers, just delayed and with that message

Anyway..can Doomseeker query for both ports, both addresses ? What in like two different tabs ?

I wouldn't know because with it I've always only used ST plugin, and I prefer it over IDE and much easier to host

[Blzut3]

You can go ahead and use the Doomseeker 0.9 Beta Beta (double Beta intentional) with the Zandronum plugin we uploaded recently. That way you can have the plugins set to different masters. The number of changes made to 0.9 thus far are too small to really consider it unstable for normal use.

[mistamontiel]

It's not working for Skulltag. I have its .exe set, and I have Zandronum's .exe set

Both ports/servers I see, but all have the Zandronum icon. I try to join a Skulltag server, just the last official v0.98d-r3021 but it runs Zandronum instead..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/M ... ker_st.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/M ... eker_z.png

[Blzut3]

I believe there are problems with Skulltag's master at the moment, so all Skulltag servers you see are registered as Zandronum servers. I haven't looked recently but it last time I looked Zandronum servers didn't have the testing version flag set on them so there's no real way around this except maybe set both to master.zandronum.com and make sure only one plugin is enabled at a time.

[Zalewa]

It's not working for Skulltag. I have its .exe set, and I have Zandronum's .exe set

Both ports/servers I see, but all have the Zandronum icon. I try to join a Skulltag server, just the last official v0.98d-r3021 but it runs Zandronum instead..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/M ... ker_st.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/M ... eker_z.png

Please read the first post carefully:

Important note:
Because the query protocol is the same for both games then the plugins may come in conflict. Zandronum servers will be detected by Skulltag plugin and vice-versa. This isn't something we can easily work around, unless we completely remove and block Skulltag plugin in future releases of Doomseeker. This is a solution but it's not a very good one if anyone would want to use one of the Skulltag builds for some reason.
The current Doomseeker build comes with both plugins, so to avoid conflicts don't have them both enabled at the same time.

[mistamontiel]

Ahh. Gotcha

Is simultaneous downloading screwing up ? I recall seeing only two going at a time, then one finished and now only one at a time since

sickedwick.net has simultaneous downloading no ? oblacek.sh.cvut.cz also isn't doing this now either

I would see three simultaneous downloads very often, not sure why not anymore

[Dark-Assassin]

master.skulltag.net is back. But the main master is still down. The DNS just got re-pointed.

Also, isn't it possible to change the launcher protocol for Zandronum?

[Ijon Tichy]

You could always check if the version string for a server starts with "9". If it does, it's probably a Skulltag server, and can mark it as such. If it doesn't, it's probably Zandro, and again, can mark it as such.

[Dark-Assassin]

I'm sure it's better changing internal code rather than having server browser hacks.

[Zalewa]

Is simultaneous downloading screwing up ? I recall seeing only two going at a time, then one finished and now only one at a time since

sickedwick.net has simultaneous downloading no ? oblacek.sh.cvut.cz also isn't doing this now either

I would see three simultaneous downloads very often, not sure why not anymore

To prevent Wadseeker from being rejected by servers which limit the number of simultaneous downloads we had decided to limit the download count in the client itself to one per domain. The simultaneous downloads will only occur if files are on different servers.

I'm sure it's better changing internal code rather than having server browser hacks.

I agree. The solution proposed by Ijon Tichy would be difficult to achieve with current Doomseeker architecture.

[Blzut3]

Of course if the Zandronum servers had the testing flag on there wouldn't be any of these problems. :P

[Torr Samaho]

Also, isn't it possible to change the launcher protocol for Zandronum?

We can change everything we want of course. The question is what do you want to have changed and why?

Of course if the Zandronum servers had the testing flag on there wouldn't be any of these problems. :P

The Zandronum beta servers don't have the testing flag on? They should have.

[Blzut3]

We can change everything we want of course. The question is what do you want to have changed and why?

VHost support for any possible migrations would be nice. Basically the server browser would need to send master.zandronum.com to the master. If it's wrong it can send a moved response with the proper address/port (original port can be determined from the socket). This could also be used for alternative lists in the future if need be.

Also a user-agent field for browser market share tracking would be kind of cool I think.

The Zandronum beta servers don't have the testing flag on? They should have.

Unless Doomseeker has a regression in testing server support. I've added the URL to the plugin and all Zandronum servers seem to launch the standard client. Using the Skulltag plugin launches 98d for them as well.

[mistamontiel]

Half of my server configs I can't load anymore.



The last Doomseeker I was using, I only had to rename the .cfg to .ini and they would load. Now nope

I open them in Notepad, search for "engine" and I see "engine = "Skulltag";", they've always been set. And I am using ST engine only. So now I'm super lost

EDIT: So those server configs that won't load, with that error, they're pretty much made with the ancient Doomseeker, the bundled one with ST 98d

[Torr Samaho]

VHost support for any possible migrations would be nice. Basically the server browser would need to send master.zandronum.com to the master. If it's wrong it can send a moved response with the proper address/port (original port can be determined from the socket). This could also be used for alternative lists in the future if need be.

Also a user-agent field for browser market share tracking would be kind of cool I think.

Nice ideas. I think we should open tracker tickets for them.

Unless Doomseeker has a regression in testing server support. I've added the URL to the plugin and all Zandronum servers seem to launch the standard client. Using the Skulltag plugin launches 98d for them as well.

IDE properly detects that the Zandronum alpha servers have the testing flag (just tested this), so it seems to be a Doomseeker issue.