Should Edd be unbanned from the forums?

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Should Edd be unbanned from the forums?

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Post by Jenova » Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:00 pm

Should Edd be unbanned?

I was going to write an essay on this but sadly did not have the time for it.

Edd has been a valuable member to the greater doom community (GDC) for years. He is one of the oldest players on Zandronum. Look, I've known Edd for years. Heh. Maybe even a decade. He is one of the most down to earth players in the GDC. You may have known him by his previous alias (Dr. Noob). Let me assure you, he is no noob.

The reason I'm making this topic is that I have plenty of people in PMs who have been asking me nonstop about Edd being unbanned. When I come home from a hard day at work I load up my IRC client and have at least 20 PM windows open asking me where Edd is. And that's a question we need to answer. Where is Edd? He isn't here, but he should be.

I am sure if you look at his post count he probably has a ton, he is a valuable contributor to this community and we could really use him back. Bless up.

Please post with your thoughts and blessings. Thanks for reading!

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Re: Should Edd be unbanned from the forums?

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Post by Sean » Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:13 pm

ok
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Post by Razgriz » Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:22 pm

He should get an unban but stay on permanent post moderation.

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Post by Jenova » Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:24 pm

Razgriz wrote:He should get an unban but stay on permanent post moderation.
Strongly disagree here. Permanent post moderation is basically just limiting someone's thoughts and opinions. If the moderator doesn't like the content, despite the content being well-versed, he or she can simply not allow the post. Unacceptable.

He should be placed on a tight leash instead. This way if he acts in an unlikeable manner again he can be removed.

Let's not forget that Dr. Noob is a masterbowl winner, either.

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Post by Mobius » Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:25 pm

Jenova wrote:more shitposting
It's the same barrier of entry Decay is getting. It's plenty of fair.
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Post by Tenchu » Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:30 pm

Razgriz wrote:He should get an unban but stay on permanent post moderation.
This.

#freeEdd
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Post by Jenova » Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:32 pm

Mobius wrote:
Jenova wrote:more shitposting
It's the same barrier of entry Decay is getting. It's plenty of fair.
This is a tough call though. Can anyone really say that Edward has been as much of a problem as Decay? He usually keeps to himself and acts in a calm and collected manner. Do we really need to impose these barbaric rules?

I don't think Decay should have post moderation either. This is a cruel and unusual punishment.

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Post by Sean » Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:36 pm

this thread has brought the fact that we can't post emoji to my attention and I think we need to boycott these forums due to that
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Post by Razgriz » Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:37 pm

Jenova wrote:Permanent post moderation is basically just limiting someone's thoughts and opinions. If the moderator doesn't like the content, despite the content being well-versed, he or she can simply not allow the post. Unacceptable.
They're still allowed to express themselves appropriately, and there's no reason for you to be concerned if a moderator reacts properly or not, I think we have a good yardstick for judging edd posts
Jenova wrote:He should be placed on a tight leash instead. This way if he acts in an unlikeable manner again he can be removed.
Perm post moderation is his tight leash given his small, yet terrible posting ratio. If he acts in an unlikable manner again his post can simply be disapproved.
Jenova wrote:Let's not forget that Dr. Noob is a masterbowl winner, either.
If only he contributed to good ideas and projects more often, then maybe.

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Re: Should Edd be unbanned from the forums?

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Post by SkullRush » Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:40 pm

I really think that he should be unbanned from the forums.
Also, he should be unbanned from the #zandronum IRC channel as well.
Then you ask me why?...
Well it's simple..

Edd knows english AND portuguese.
We all know we have a huge amount of BR's (3) and a large amount of players who are from Portugal (0) in this community.
Edd may be the only way we can connect to these kind of people.
PROOF - [spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

He also won a IDL
HE HAS A MASTERBOWL DUDES...!!
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And hes also a machine on creating memes..
Every single community need a mememan and that can't be no one else but Edd..

I really think that edd should be unbanned..
Actually, I'M SURE WE NEED EDD AROUND HERE..
#FreeEdd2017
Have a nice day
(idk if this is a valid point but, his skin is not white, that makes him superior..)

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Post by Jenova » Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:41 pm

I don't want to accuse anyone of anything but... A forum staff member pushing for permanent post moderation where they would be able to control the narrative... Seems fishy...

Post moderation doesn't seem like the right idea to me. What benefit does it provide? Just re-ban him if he misbehaves, problem solved. Post moderation has can lead to censorship of information and biased moderation. At least with a ban we know the exact reason why they were banned.

And what if they post stupid things while under post moderation? Presumably they'd just get re-banned, so it's almost the same thing.
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Post by Sean » Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:41 pm

Jenova wrote:I don't want to accuse anyone of anything but... A forum staff member pushing for permanent post moderation where they would be able to control the narrative...

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wtf how come MiFU can use emoji and I can't this is oppressioj omf
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Re: Should Edd be unbanned from the forums?

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Post by Razgriz » Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:54 pm

Jenova wrote:I don't want to accuse anyone of anything but... A forum staff member pushing for permanent post moderation where they would be able to control the narrative... Seems fishy...

Post moderation doesn't seem like the right idea to me. What benefit does it provide? Just re-ban him if he misbehaves, problem solved. Post moderation has can lead to censorship of information and biased moderation. At least with a ban we know the exact reason why they were banned.

And what if they post stupid things while under post moderation? Presumably they'd just get re-banned, so it's almost the same thing.
It's highly unlikely any censorship would occur, if they post like this then there's 100% chance it will get approved, but if they post like this then you know it's 100% trash worthy. If they post stupid things while under post moderation then they'll see their posts never make it into any topic, the idea in the end is to allow habitually shitty/stupid posters the chance to contribute still. If they don't, they will get banned in the long run, but it's not likely it'll be immediate unless he starts shitting up at the very beginning. It's their choice if they decide to post good or post shitty, they're old enough to know what the results will be like.

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Re: Should Edd be unbanned from the forums?

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Post by Ivan » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:54 am

Sure but only if kept on a tight leash IMO.
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Post by Ru5tK1ng » Tue Sep 05, 2017 1:12 am

Also, he should be unbanned from the #zandronum IRC channel as well.
Nice meme. That's not going to happen considering he goes out of his way to make sure he stays banned in that channel.

Isn't Decay going to be under some sort of mid-term post-moderation? I see no issue why edd wouldn't be subject to the same thing. I'm not against either of them getting unbanned because both are eventually going to get themselves banned again.

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Post by Dranzer » Tue Sep 05, 2017 1:32 am

unban ral too
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Post by The Toxic Avenger » Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:28 am

Unlike Decay edd has shown zero intelligence on the forum and evaded moderation in the past by making a new account.

Not happening, have a nice day.

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Post by HateDaddy » Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:40 am

The Toxic Avenger wrote:Unlike Decay edd has shown zero intelligence on the forum and evaded moderation in the past by making a new account.

Not happening, have a nice day.
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Post by Zakken » Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:52 am

HateDaddy wrote:"Edd hurt my feelings on the internet so I must keep his suspension permanent because it maintains my dwindling confidence"

#FreeRedHeadEdd
In TTA's defence, many of Edd's posts were borderline spam and contributed nothing to otherwise serious threads. Sad as it might sound, he had it coming.

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Post by Samurai » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:01 pm

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