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Which antagonist faction between these three games would win? DN3D's aliens? SW's demons or Doom's demons.

I think that Doom's demons would win. What do you think?

Probably Doom's. They come from Hell itself, their effect on the environment is portrayed on a much greater scale than the other two. Probably SW's antagonist faction would be weaker in these terms. However, if you're talking about what they can do in a 1v1 fight in similar species, then SW would win hands down. The damage they can do is just far greater than anything.

Ivan wrote: However, if you're talking about what they can do in a 1v1 fight in similar species, then SW would win hands down. The damage they can do is just far greater than anything.

I'm talking about the whole demonic army actually.

Not to sound biased, but by FACT. Doom's demon army does the most damage output when they all unite their attacks on their targets. Their only weakness is the infighting, but then again. I'd deck a fellow marine's chops for friendly firing me. :|

Suicide Slim wrote: Not to sound biased, but by FACT. Doom's demon army does the most damage output when they all unite their attacks on their targets. Their only weakness is the infighting, but then again. I'd deck a fellow marine's chops for friendly firing me. :|

That may be true, but in SW literally almost anything can OHKO you if you're not careful, whereas in Doom after some point you feel like a god.

Ivan wrote: whereas in Doom after some point you feel like a god.

Only on every other difficulty besides UV and Nightmare. UV has beaten and bloodied me before. And Nightmare just, lets just say my funeral was held early.

Suicide Slim wrote:

Ivan wrote: whereas in Doom after some point you feel like a god.

Only on every other difficulty besides UV and Nightmare. UV has beaten and bloodied me before. And Nightmare just, lets just say my funeral was held early.

Nightmare is a pointless difficulty. At least in Duke Nukem 3D, they can be made to not respawn through gibbing so it adds some strategy. In SW, they don't respawn but monster count, monster health and damage go up by a huge amount.

Nightmare isn't that hard if you know what you're doing. The hardest level in nightmare would be map02 in doom2.

You mean hardest level is the pits.. and map02 is nothing to what awaits on map03.

I don't really think we can rate the factions depending on the damage they can dish out ingame, If by enemy types then shadow warrior will win just because of those damn bees that need a trillion shots before any can hit.

Cruduxy wrote: You mean hardest level is the pits.. and map02 is nothing to what awaits on map03.

I don't really think we can rate the factions depending on the damage they can dish out ingame, If by enemy types then shadow warrior will win just because of those damn bees that need a trillion shots before any can hit.

Well there we go. Apperently Shadow Warrior wins.

My this was a fast decision.

I think the Battlelord would trump the Cyberdemon and the Spidermastermind, as it's literally both in one single giant hideous beast.

Cruduxy wrote: You mean hardest level is the pits.. and map02 is nothing to what awaits on map03.

No, when you get to the pits you are already megasphere'd up and you have pretty much all the weapons, vs map02 where you are stuck with a shotgun only for more than half the map and most of the monsters are shotgunners. Map03 is a cakewalk because of it's easy access to the chaingun and blue armor.

IMO, The Cycloid Emperor would easily destroy both the Cyberdemon and the Spider Mastermind, but what about the Mother Demon? Asking because I never got to the end of Doom 64.

Catastrophe wrote:

Cruduxy wrote: You mean hardest level is the pits.. and map02 is nothing to what awaits on map03.

No, when you get to the pits you are already megasphere'd up and you have pretty much all the weapons, vs map02 where you are stuck with a shotgun only for more than half the map and most of the monsters are shotgunners. Map03 is a cakewalk because of it's easy access to the chaingun and blue armor.

All the times I played nightmare map03 and the pits were the most annoying.. sometimes I die at the end of that map with cacos on elevators, the rest are all easy to shortcut or exploit. -Honorable mention to map14, good luck beating it not knowing the glitch to bypass first key-

Cruduxy wrote:

Catastrophe wrote:

Cruduxy wrote: You mean hardest level is the pits.. and map02 is nothing to what awaits on map03.

No, when you get to the pits you are already megasphere'd up and you have pretty much all the weapons, vs map02 where you are stuck with a shotgun only for more than half the map and most of the monsters are shotgunners. Map03 is a cakewalk because of it's easy access to the chaingun and blue armor.

All the times I played nightmare map03 and the pits were the most annoying.. sometimes I die at the end of that map with cacos on elevators, the rest are all easy to shortcut or exploit. -Honorable mention to map14, good luck beating it not knowing the glitch to bypass first key-

Whaddya mean? You literally don't even have to go near the pits for an efficient nightmare speedrun of map03.

The pits is map09 not the room in map03..