Re: YAY DRAMA - New rules
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:17 am
Drama is dead, long live drama!
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It took the admins 4 months to decide to ban me for what I did. I'd consider 4 months long enough to warrant something being in the past...mifu wrote:But past infractions dont get considered when banning someone.
Are you sure you read all of my posts?mifu wrote:(which lets be honest, you seem to have a problem with right now)
No, we're not way past that and this is why I quoted you in the one single report I've made:mifu wrote:I had also pointed out that I talked to Decay about this before you decided to notify us about one of his posts asking if he got punished despite the fact we were way past that.
Don't say things you're not going to do.mifu wrote:I have asked the rest of the forum staff (well those who saw my message) to basically hand out punishments for anyone who contributes to any sort of drama. This also includes retaliation (if your post just adds fuel to the fire)
Yeah ok, except slim didn't call Decay anything. At worst all he said was that decay was probably trying to troll him.mifu wrote:For Reference allow me (yet again) advise how this started. He said that someone signature is retarded due to the size of it. Note that this is an opinion and everyone is entitled to that (including you and me and everyone else.) Decay gets blamed by Slim for calling him a retard though Decay never said this. This is probably why Slim got that bad response. Yea ok, I do agree Decay could tone it done and be more diplomatic however hes not 100% at fault for this.
Then what's the point of warnings at all?mifu wrote:But past infractions dont get considered when banning someone.
You said yourself that you would make a thread to clear things up so I thought this is where we should discuss this sort of thing.mifu wrote:As Rustking pointed out you have not sat in a staff channel where we decide things. This also is in relation to banning anyone or punishing anyone.
You seem to think that it's alright to respond in an equally aggressive way, but like I said, it never changes the fact that such a thing is inappropriate and against the rules.mifu wrote:ive noticed a few instances where he was provoked or called out on.
Being fair is the most important part here.mifu wrote:Moderators here use their discretion and are encouraged to do so while being fair.
Oh, of course I would get the "how about you try and do my job?" argument..mifu wrote:My question is, I i were to resign tomorrow and be all like "Yo Leonard, your admin now. Congrats and have a nice day. If you don't want to be admin then give it to someone else who will keep this place running and alive" Would you take it, and tell me how you would be better then me?
mifu wrote:Mainly about me apparently "sucking at my job"
It's not because I think that you're doing a bad job that I immediatly hate you and you suck and all of this..mifu wrote:Seeing as you don't think I do a good job
Not trying to defend anyone here, but what does Compet-N have to do with Zandronums rules exactly?Decay wrote:SR-50 w/ turning has always been against Compet-N rules, and thus is considered cheating. https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1382220
I'm going to repeat it for you:Decay wrote:Yes I am a prime example of what's wrong with the forum.
What's exactly wrong with the forum again?
And yes, you ARE the prime example of that because you did exactly what I pointed out was wrong in the very next post:Leonard wrote:this is about having a clean forum where everyone is free to post without immediatly being called a retard.
...Decay wrote:But then again, you are pretty retarded so I don't expect you to understand this.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. This is what the staff should handle.Decay wrote:Isn't that your motif? "He asked for it" LOL
Leonard wrote:If I say the rules should apply to everyone then that of course also applies to me and I'm not magically excluding myself.
Excellent logic, you're definitely going to solve it like that.Decay wrote:and maybe you won't be called a retard. Dipshit.
Yes, but what if said people aren't chilling out after their warnings like you're doing just now?Decay wrote:Warnings are for telling people to chill
mifu wrote:I made it that 5 warnings will send you to probation. Probation will allow you to still post but a moderator must approve it first before anyone else sees it. We will be doing this from now on, instead of suspensions.
No, I was not talking about master-server bans but about forum bans.Decay wrote:especially you're one to call for master-server bans over attitude, when the rules clearly state (and have for 2 years) you can only be banned for cheating.
Be Civil
Treat others with the same kind of respect you wish to be treated with. If that's not very much, treat others with respect anyway.
It did not. Can you provide a source please?John Zombie wrote:it also enabled SR50 while turning(and possibly some other stuff I'm not aware of)
But Compet-N's rules are specifically for single-player speedruns in boom. I don't get how that applies to Zandronum as almost no one uses the port for that purpose.Decay wrote:Compet-N is about as official you can get. Now in saying this, I don't know if those rules would've been implemented if we had all the tools we have today, but as far as I know all speed-running records and any official times abide by these rules, and afaik the devs here have followed this lead as well.Catastrophe wrote:Not trying to defend anyone here, but what does Compet-N have to do with Zandronums rules exactly?Decay wrote:SR-50 w/ turning has always been against Compet-N rules, and thus is considered cheating. https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1382220
I can't be bothered searching for demos being several months old, but it was pretty much a fact that at a certain point almost every jumpmaze regular was using your custom exe which allowed to SR50 while turning through joypad emulation, unfortunately the people you trusted when you passed your exe *cough* Galactus *cough* didn't manage to keep their mouth shut about it, boasting about using it not only on JM but on priv ctf as well and exposing the whole thing... then we all know what happened next(JM records got canceled, the staff recognized it as a cheat)Leonard wrote:It did not. Can you provide a source please?John Zombie wrote:it also enabled SR50 while turning(and possibly some other stuff I'm not aware of)
Just to remind you about the turning SR50 case: everyone could do it with a joystick and you did not need a custom binary to do that.
Your previous post says otherwise.Decay wrote:I am very chill right now.
How is that relevant?Decay wrote:Where's your supporters?
In this ticket, I was referring to JWarrier's thread which outright asked to masterban you.Decay wrote:http://zandronum.com/tracker/view.php?id=2635#c14534 This is the kind of attitude you'd bring to staff.
I already responded to that in this thread when John Zombie asked me why.Decay wrote:and to this day I still have no idea what I did to you.
You mean the thing everyone can do with any other external executable made to emulate joypads?John Zombie wrote:through joypad emulation
You're the one who couldn't find a demo which doesn't even address the fact that anyone could do it without my binary by the way.John Zombies wrote:Stop pretending
He is unable to comprehend, unable to read, unable to correctly answer questions, unable to realize he is a disgusting person, unable to realize he's just pissing everyone off, but he is also a troll, a liar, only thing he can do is give back handed apologies and repeat the same thing ("Oh you are so rude." "Oh these are your excellent contributions eh?") over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over, like a robot, or actually, rather, like a mentally retarded individual, even the most defiant denier of psychology would come to this conclusion. And to top it off, he would definitely lose 0-5 against Dragon.Samurai wrote:I'm guessing this all stems from the Galactus ban, heh.
For all the people who didn't know. Our good friend Leonard here was this great community member that was distributing the hacks/cheats/exploits that Galactus was banned for. Just to state the obvious, the sheer audacity of a guy distributing hacks, and to get away with it, to start crying/backseat modding on the forums about peoples behaviour is quite fucking incredible. Also, funny how Leonard has dodged every question relating to the hack distribution on here so far.
Since I'm guessing Galactus was his little buddy on here, this is probably the true cause of his little outburst here on the forum in recent days, and the rest is some bullshit charade to try and cover up his intentions to attempt to get Decay banned.
And just to top if off, he is complaining that staff don't do anything, or turn a blind eye to it... Sorry buddy, but for a guy who distributed hacks, and somehow got away with it (with the same staff who you are criticizing), it is pretty damn rich of you to be piping up with shit like this. If I were you, I'd be considering myself damn lucky that I wasn't banned here myself for all the damage you have caused this community.
Doesn't change the fact you emulated it for the precise purpose of exploiting that joypad feature.Leonard wrote:Emulating a joypad has nothing to do with turning during SR50 by the way, it just so happens that joypads allow to do it.
Once again: I won't waste time searching for something being from quite some time ago just because you're too much of a liar to admit you included that feature in your exe.Leonard wrote:You're the one who couldn't find a demo which doesn't even address the fact that anyone could do it without my binary by the way.