YAY DRAMA - New rules

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Re: YAY DRAMA - New rules

Post#101 by John Zombie » 1 year ago

Leonard wrote:
John Zombie wrote:it also enabled SR50 while turning(and possibly some other stuff I'm not aware of)

It did not. Can you provide a source please?
Just to remind you about the turning SR50 case: everyone could do it with a joystick and you did not need a custom binary to do that.

I can't be bothered searching for demos being several months old, but it was pretty much a fact that at a certain point almost every jumpmaze regular was using your custom exe which allowed to SR50 while turning through joypad emulation, unfortunately the people you trusted when you passed your exe *cough* Galactus *cough* didn't manage to keep their mouth shut about it, boasting about using it not only on JM but on priv ctf as well and exposing the whole thing... then we all know what happened next(JM records got canceled, the staff recognized it as a cheat)
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Re: YAY DRAMA - New rules

Post#102 by mifu » 1 year ago

Alright, lets cut the port and cheating crap for a few.

I also want to point out, warnings do expire. They also did expire on the old forum software.

Anyways from what I understand Leonard, to put it nicely you want us to be more like Zdoom forums. Funny, we used to be like that back in skulltag. I dont know if you were there or not but here's a spoiler. Not many people liked it. We warned and banned for every little insult back then. It got to a point where it also happened in zandronum when we first moved. I remember one of the devs being concerned because instead of staff getting messages, the dev got all the complaints. He was concerned because at the time, we were not liked by the community for those decisions and obviously it meant that if theres no community, theres no point in deving up a port now is there?

This is why I am LAX because being apart of staff for a while, the whole strict on everything thing does not work at all. Theres no harm in allowing small outburts or lulzy drama. Now I do agree that when things do escalate, action should be taken. I agree with you on that part. Now I gota be honest however.

Problem is, zdoom forum rules don't suit us and it will get in the way of what I am trying to do by creating a lax environment. Being an M rated game, we should be able to handle a few insults thrown out here or there. Any other suggestions

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Re: YAY DRAMA - New rules

Post#103 by Bloax » 1 year ago

The forums of Skulltag, and consequently - Zandronum, have always been about the lulzy drama and the occasional "buh buh you suck!!" bitchfight.
But every single time there was plenty of discussion going on that wasn't part of the lulz or the bitchfights, just like there is now.
Nothing is "buried" under the vast amounts of drama, unless the splits are getting out of hand and the New posts section is getting drowned out in new trash topics. :v

So really, I can't see a problem. Join the drama crusaders today! :bobpage:

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Re: YAY DRAMA - New rules

Post#104 by Leonard » 1 year ago

Decay wrote:I am very chill right now.

Your previous post says otherwise.

Decay wrote:Where's your supporters?

How is that relevant?

Decay wrote:http://zandronum.com/tracker/view.php?id=2635#c14534 This is the kind of attitude you'd bring to staff.

In this ticket, I was referring to JWarrier's thread which outright asked to masterban you.
In my reply to you however, I was talking about the many posts I made in this very thread.

Decay wrote:and to this day I still have no idea what I did to you.

I already responded to that in this thread when John Zombie asked me why.

John Zombie wrote:through joypad emulation

You mean the thing everyone can do with any other external executable made to emulate joypads?
Emulating a joypad has nothing to do with turning during SR50 by the way, it just so happens that joypads allow to do it.

John Zombies wrote:Stop pretending

You're the one who couldn't find a demo which doesn't even address the fact that anyone could do it without my binary by the way.

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Post#105 by Decay » 1 year ago

Leonard wrote:
Decay wrote:I am very chill right now.

Your previous post says otherwise.
:cool:
Leonard wrote:
Decay wrote:Where's your supporters?

How is that relevant?
You sure have a lot of people thinking you're right!!!! Definitely this isn't an issue started by one or two people with chips on the shoulder and knocks on the head.
Leonard wrote:
Decay wrote:http://zandronum.com/tracker/view.php?id=2635#c14534 This is the kind of attitude you'd bring to staff.

In this ticket, I was referring to JWarrier's thread which outright asked to masterban you.
In my reply to you however, I was talking about the many posts I made in this very thread.
Sureeeeeeeeeeeee you were :rolleyes:
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Decay wrote:and to this day I still have no idea what I did to you.

I already responded to that in this thread when John Zombie asked me why.
Did u rly i'm not digging through all your tripe to find it, when it probably comes down to "he was mean to others, fuck him." poor bby :sadface:

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Re: YAY DRAMA - New rules

Post#106 by Dynamo » 1 year ago

there's no point in discussing further with someone like Leonard, since he is essentially unable to comprehend other people's posts and constantly avoids questions directed at him in regards to the shit he pulls daily. SwiftShot put it best

Samurai wrote:I'm guessing this all stems from the Galactus ban, heh.

For all the people who didn't know. Our good friend Leonard here was this great community member that was distributing the hacks/cheats/exploits that Galactus was banned for. Just to state the obvious, the sheer audacity of a guy distributing hacks, and to get away with it, to start crying/backseat modding on the forums about peoples behaviour is quite fucking incredible. Also, funny how Leonard has dodged every question relating to the hack distribution on here so far.

Since I'm guessing Galactus was his little buddy on here, this is probably the true cause of his little outburst here on the forum in recent days, and the rest is some bullshit charade to try and cover up his intentions to attempt to get Decay banned.

And just to top if off, he is complaining that staff don't do anything, or turn a blind eye to it... Sorry buddy, but for a guy who distributed hacks, and somehow got away with it (with the same staff who you are criticizing), it is pretty damn rich of you to be piping up with shit like this. If I were you, I'd be considering myself damn lucky that I wasn't banned here myself for all the damage you have caused this community.


He is unable to comprehend, unable to read, unable to correctly answer questions, unable to realize he is a disgusting person, unable to realize he's just pissing everyone off, but he is also a troll, a liar, only thing he can do is give back handed apologies and repeat the same thing ("Oh you are so rude." "Oh these are your excellent contributions eh?") over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over, like a robot, or actually, rather, like a mentally retarded individual, even the most defiant denier of psychology would come to this conclusion. And to top it off, he would definitely lose 0-5 against Dragon.

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Re: YAY DRAMA - New rules

Post#107 by Mobius » 1 year ago

For all the shit I am reading in this thread that should have died awhile ago it seems as though the issue stems from one person and their silent camp. It seems Leonard wants this forum to be ran like another, but yet why doesn't he just GO THERE. If the community REALLY FELT like Decay is an issue as one champion here is speaking for, then they can come here themselves and speak up. How about we open a fucking poll and see what the community feels and if they want him really gone go vote on it. How about Leonard answer the fucking question on what he'd do instead of offering only fucking criticism. You know criticism is absolutely fine if he doesn't offer a solution to the problem other than banning Decay, who has been banned before.

In fact if this was a huge issue for the community then where is the community in question Leonard? Are you stupid? Retarded? French? All of the above? You're quantized rancorously-cancerousily autistic is what you are. Now I am calling you stupid. Make a crusade about me. Hurry up already and GET THE FUCK OUT. Aniema and Alienoverlord have even said it here they do not have a problem with Decay -- the latter literally once having a problem with many of us making fun of his poor mannerisms (btw Alien I don't mean now I think you're a pretty alright guy). So go forth. Go get Zdoom people, your friends, pets, and everyone else that feels Decay should be removed and bring them here. Go get expert analysis from researchers at Stanford to confirm your confirmation bias or appeal to authority or just get anyone here and open up a civil discussion instead of dissecting every single fragment of someone's post without addressing any vocal point whatsoever.

So what would you do as lead admin? Tell me.
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Re: YAY DRAMA - New rules

Post#108 by John Zombie » 1 year ago

Leonard wrote:Emulating a joypad has nothing to do with turning during SR50 by the way, it just so happens that joypads allow to do it.

Doesn't change the fact you emulated it for the precise purpose of exploiting that joypad feature.

Leonard wrote:You're the one who couldn't find a demo which doesn't even address the fact that anyone could do it without my binary by the way.

Once again: I won't waste time searching for something being from quite some time ago just because you're too much of a liar to admit you included that feature in your exe.
And how is the fact you could also do it with an external exe supposed to justify you anyway? It's like including an aimbot in your binary and claim "it's all good, you could do that even by injecting an external DLL anyway" ???

To sum it up: SR50 while turning was supposed to be used only with joypads, emulating joypads to exploit that feature even with the more convenient keyboard+mouse setup is a whole other story/pretty much a cheat.

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Re: YAY DRAMA - New rules

Post#109 by Razgriz » 1 year ago

Seems to me that Leo and Decay need a vacation from the forums, let's try one month for starters...

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Re: YAY DRAMA - New rules

Post#110 by Ru5tK1ng » 1 year ago

Unfortunately, this is going to continue in one way or another on IRC. It ain't over yet for you guys (staff).

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Post#111 by Doomkid » 1 year ago

Oh wow Decay was banned?

*removes Zandronum.com from favorites*






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Re: YAY DRAMA - New rules

Post#112 by ibm5155 » 1 year ago

If the main port can do the exploit, you cannot blame the other port for doing the same.
Like the turn off your internet exploit, on games for not falling ang get stucked on mid air, that on prop hunt and icon of party ( I remember that map where the skybox changes to a color where you need to stay)...
And also lets not miss the noise 1 "cheat" where on mods like zombie horde, you can Always find the last human...
The problem aren't the ports, but yes the users that're exploiting and teaching how to exploit it...
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Re: YAY DRAMA - New rules

Post#113 by Mr.Fegelein » 1 year ago

This is very fair compared to most rules ive seen set by forum admins back in the day.
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