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YAY DRAMA - New rules

Post#1 by mifu » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:03 am

Hello fellow zandronumers.

I hope things are working out at the moment, but I need to address something. Lately I have been noticing an influx of shit posting and in particular some provocative behavior from some people.

Then people like to ask me "oh why is this guy not banned yet, hes done terrible things." The thing is when people decide to fire a shot at someone, and you get a shitty response from that person back.. its quite warranted in most cases.

You all bring up Decay as being someone that should be banned based on the past and his posting as it is now. When I read through this, while I agree that Decay could change his posting though, ive noticed a few instances where he was provoked or called out on. Most people who also use the past argument does not have a clean track record either (Note that I used *MOST*, huge difference)

But don't worry, I'll level with you guys. I have asked the rest of the forum staff (well those who saw my message) to basically hand out punishments for anyone who contributes to any sort of drama. This also includes retaliation (if your post just adds fuel to the fire)

If you are going to retaliate, then do so in a civil manner. If you cant do this, then report the post as all of you should be doing anyways, and let the forum staff take care of it.
This way both parties are held responsible. I don't mind if you want to say anything you want. Hell you can call something retarded, its an opinion. But if its going to turn into a shit posting fest then forget it, its not gonna happen.

Now I know most here hate Decay a-lot so with this in mind, do not provoke him on purpose. If you are going to try to get him banned on purpose then I will simply... do nothing. Play by the rules or get nothing. Simple.

Also the warning system has changed. I cant do warning levels on this software so what I have done is, I made it that 5 warnings will send you to probation. Probation will allow you to still post but a moderator must approve it first before anyone else sees it. We will be doing this from now on, instead of suspensions.

I hope this helps and if you got any questions, feedback or whatever please post here. Keep it civil however. Thanks.

EDIT: Sorry Decay for using you as an example, but you are a common conversation now :| Oh I need to chat to you about this too so please message me when you get a chance.

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Re: YAY DRAMA - New rules

Post#2 by Slyfox » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:32 am

So tl:dr, Decay is the school bully and should be left alone, lest we all want broken windows; Both kids get suspended in a fight regardless of who started it? And instead of getting suspended, you're stuck in detention all day.

Awwww snap

I'm gonna miss the battles between two parties and letting it sort itself out by someone scurrying away, but oh well.

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Re: YAY DRAMA - New rules

Post#3 by Mobius » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:36 am

Mifu wrote:Also the warning system has changed. I cant do warning levels on this software so what I have done is, I made it that 5 warnings will send you to probation. Probation will allow you to still post but a moderator must approve it first before anyone else sees it. We will be doing this from now on, instead of suspensions.


How dastardly evil of you. You are a cheeky and devious little administrator and you know full well being banned is preferential over being put on Moderator Preview because then you're literally at the mercy of whoever is reading it while you must monitor your behavior. You can confound the issue with how ever long you wish to have them being toyed with as you simultaneously have posting privileges dangled over you. It's like having the privilege but not the freedom.

The rest I do not agree since I prefer a community to regulate itself and its members, but I will say a moderator splitting derailing posting is the only time intervention is necessary. Then again I don't care about other people's feelings when it comes to them shitting up the place, but Decay should definitely be more diplomatic.
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Re: YAY DRAMA - New rules

Post#4 by Catastrophe » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:02 am

rip forum activity

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Post#5 by CloudFlash » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:31 am

I very much approve of this, some posts were just ridiculously angsty about him breathing. Also being probed seems like a great idea, when compared to banhammer ;3

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Re: YAY DRAMA - New rules

Post#6 by Doomkid » Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:11 am

I'm confused by this thread

I mean I'm usually confused anyway but still

EDIT: Is there one post/thread in particular that brought this on?

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Re: YAY DRAMA - New rules

Post#7 by Samurai » Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:15 am

Drama makes the forum worth reading, for me anyway.

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Re: YAY DRAMA - New rules

Post#8 by Ænima » Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:29 pm

You're all pussies, ignore Decay and move on if he bothers you that much.
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Re: YAY DRAMA - New rules

Post#9 by Mobius » Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:47 pm

Ænima wrote:You're all pussies, ignore Decay and move on if he bothers you that much.


You should probably be careful throwing around irony like that.
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Re: YAY DRAMA - New rules

Post#10 by Ænima » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:37 pm

Mobius wrote:
Ænima wrote:You're all pussies, ignore Decay and move on if he bothers you that much.


You should probably be careful throwing around irony like that.


I've been a drama whore in the past but I no longer hold grudges against anyone in the community, including you. I even supported unbanning you, and I'm against banning people like Decay until they truly do something destructive towards the community.

Doom is slowly dying out and I just wanna have fun while I can.
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Re: YAY DRAMA - New rules

Post#11 by John Zombie » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:40 pm

I guess this thread was opened because of:
Leonard wrote:Quick reminder for anyone who would like to pull the "oh but he's only responding to retards" bullshit: it does NOT change the fact that it is INAPPROPRIATE and AGAINST THE RULES which the staff is supposedly here to ENFORCE.

Seeing how he got away with spreading exes filled with cheats/exploits/whatever for quite some time I think he's not in a position to give lectures about rules enforcement/disgusting attitudes :rolleyes:

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Post#12 by Leonard » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:14 pm

Alright let's do this.
First I'm going to reply to what you said in the split because that's why this was made in the first place if I understand correctly.

mifu wrote:From what I am reading, decay is not doing anything wrong but it seems people who dislike him, have been indeed well.. provoking the dragon if you will.

Oh the irony.
Okay so let me recap what I said in the post you quoted:
  • I point out that the staff are completely blind and taking no action on decay's behavior.
  • To prove myself, I point out how decay himself called someone a retard literally on the exact same thread
  • After quoting all of this, you do EXACTLY what I pointed out in the first point: decay called someone a retard and all you can say is "decay is not doing anything wrong"
H.. how?.. Why?..
If you think I somehow provoked him, please re-read the thread and the split and you will notice that before he insulted someone of being a retard, I did not post a single time.

Now back to this thread:

mifu wrote:If you are going to retaliate, then do so in a civil manner.

Which is what I did in the thread you split.
All I did was simply point out how the staff aren't reacting to decay violating the rules.

I'm stunned because all you do is shut down the people who try to point out how you're doing a terrible job about decay so far but not decay's posts.
And to prove what I'm saying again:
This very post was shown as an example in JWarrier's thread and it is still not removed to this day.
Yet JWarrier's thread was locked within a day.
How do you manage that? The linked post is CLEARLY a violation of the rules.
Sorry to put it that way but this can only either be bias, complete incompetence or even both and this is simply unacceptable.
I'm not sure what it is, but this is not the only example: just look at this one post above.
And the forum is just full of these.
When do you start doing your job?? Or maybe you actually are biased?
Some people agreed with me on the fact that this forum have become a trash for the past few months and as a result said people are now simply silent or don't even read the forum at all anymore which is sad.

mifu wrote:Now I know most here hate Decay a-lot so with this in mind, do not provoke him on purpose.

I personally am not angry at Decay, I see plenty of people like him, and he probably knows this.
If there's anything that should make me angry, it's how the staff are simply blind to this all.
Like I already said, all I pointed out was how the staff aren't even reacting.

mifu wrote:and let the forum staff take care of it.

Why? So that we can have another Decay wandering around freely?
If the staff was actually taking care of it and it was enough, I wouldn't be here posting this in the first place.

mifu wrote:If you are going to try to get him banned on purpose then I will simply... do nothing.

So like.. always?
You're going to do nothing like the numerous times alien was called "autism-overlord"?
Why should I stop posting then?
It would literally make no difference.

This has been going on for simply too long.

John Zombie wrote:I think he's not in a position to give lectures about rules enforcement/disgusting attitudes :rolleyes:

Says you.
Please kindly go back to calling everyone a retard, you are quite clearly part of the problem.
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Re: YAY DRAMA - New rules

Post#13 by one_Two » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:26 pm

It's just within peoples characteristics to wind people up, Decay and certain others ruin the atmosphere of the forum but they are too far gone to ever concede defeat or change their attitude, even on dw I wasn't allowed my completely inofensive opinion without him piping up, I could and do ignore though. And this isn't sarcasm, idc about this forum or doom anymore.

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Re: YAY DRAMA - New rules

Post#14 by Decay » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:36 pm

Leonard, to be fair, you are also pretty retarded. I also appreciate how you hung back from posting until directly called upon like the little bitch you are.

Let me summarize our first interaction.
"Decay I hate you" "I don't even know you, what did I do to you" "You're an asshole, fuck you"
duh duh duh. Good logic there.

I guess you missed the fact I've been banned/suspended SEVERAL times by staff. I have told current staff multiple times that if something is worth banning me over or splitting to do their job. Guess they simply have a different opinion than yours! I guess it's impossible that staff have their own agency, god forbid. Staff has told me numerous times to chill. And so have others! You think I'm awful now? If I didn't have staff/others telling me not the post it would be 100x worse.
Oh what's that, you can't deal with some vulgarity in opinions? Keep crying dude, it's a pity that tears are salty because you could single handedly fix world drought problems.

"Several people have stopped coming to/posting on the forums" Really, who are these people? I haven't noticed anyone of any significance go missing. Jwarrier? Nothing of value lost there, he didn't contribute shit, ever. Nobodies like cloudflash? Forum is better off, collective IQ raised at least 30% when people like him vacated. Maybe you should follow good-ole jwarrier's lead and put up a poll to see if people actually want me banned instead of bitching out occasionally on the forums in a mad spasm of anger.

"Another decay wandering around" Yo where have I heard that before? Oh right:
<@Metal>We don't want a bunch of decay's running around. We don't even want one.
Get the fuck outta here. Go find somewhere else that will hug you and pat you on the back. Tumblr would be a good place to start! Then you can even complain about staff, myself, and others there too! Maybe you'll even get a sympathy group following!

@1_2 good, make with the speedy exit, another "no-loss" situation. I forgot you even existed until you posted, very memorable person.
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Post#15 by one_Two » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:40 pm

Another IQ joke from decay fuck me...

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Post#16 by Decay » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:43 pm

one_Two wrote:Another IQ joke from decay fuck me...
No??? I was just too lazy to write out one_Two, so I wrote 1_2. Pull your head out of your ass and check your victim complex.

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Post#17 by Slyfox » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:55 pm

I could honestly care less about the attitude part, but to say that he kills the activity in the forums... the views on all of these says otherwise. I've said it before that Decay, although apparently 'disliked' [and by disliked I mean by a few random people whose names I've never seen outside the forums], He's one of the very few reasons these forums are interesting to read, lmao

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Post#18 by Dynamo » Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:04 pm

Leonard wrote:This has been going on for simply too long.

I agree, why don't you leave already so we can put an end to this? Nobody is interested in your crusades for justice on the forums.

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Re: YAY DRAMA - New rules

Post#19 by Ænima » Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:12 pm

@Leonard:

So you expect the staff to take the time to split every single perceived offensive post?

Use discretion yourself instead of leaving it up to the staff. Splitting someone's posts doesn't take back what they said either, unless their post gets outright deleted. You'll still be able to see what they said in the Trash and your feelings will still continue to be hurt.

Decay is an asshole. Is he "right" most of the time? More than half the time, I think he is. Does he beat dead horses? Yeah he brings up SgtMark and FSR quite a bit especially when it's irrelevant. Does he deserve to be banned? Not at the moment, no. End of discussion.
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Re: YAY DRAMA - New rules

Post#20 by John Zombie » Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:33 pm

Leonard wrote:
John Zombie wrote:I think he's not in a position to give lectures about rules enforcement/disgusting attitudes :rolleyes:

Says you.
Please kindly go back to calling everyone a retard, you are quite clearly part of the problem.

I have no idea about what you're trying to prove with those posts of mine you linked, but last I checked calling out someone for acting plain stupid wasn't a bannable offense, spreading hacks on the other hand... :rolleyes:

TL;DR there certainly is someone still allowed to be around by the staff despite his shenanigans... and it's not decay :wink:


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