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Ban Evading Y/N?

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Post by Samurai » Sat Feb 20, 2016 5:30 pm

So today I'm playing priv in Stipsi's Private IDL server, and guess who connects? Yes, everybody's favourite 'RCON abusing exploiter' Galactus. Isn't this guy supposed to be banned still, apparently so yet he is still joining the server, and apparently can also access GV servers too...

So I join #staff to bring it up:

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16:57  <Swift>	Galactus
16:57  <Swift>	they're letting you ban evade?
16:57  <Galactus>	17:42:42  <Galactus>	Yoyoyoyo friends I can join a server that's on the masterserver
16:57  <Galactus>	17:42:44  <Galactus>	pls fix kthx
16:57  <Galactus>	17:42:52  <Galactus>	also pls no perma ban cuz I'm not ban evading
16:57  <Swift>	you should leave the server
16:57  <Galactus>	Why
16:57  <Galactus>	I'm technically not doing anything wrong
16:57  <Swift>	because it's ban evading
16:58  <Galactus>	not rly
16:58  <Galactus>	it's the master server being broken
16:58  <Galactus>	a couple of days ago I could also join uk gv
16:58  <Swift>	you're exploiting it
16:59  <Galactus>	idk this seems pretty harmless tbh
16:59  <Galactus>	not my fault ppl can't code their shit
16:59  <Swift>	nah, it's ban evading
17:00  <Swift>	you shouldn't even be attempting to join a server
17:00  <Galactus>	No ban evading would be if I used a program to deliberately ban evade
17:00  <Galactus>	I'm not doing that
17:00  <Swift>	and you're exploiting the fact that there is a bug with some server
17:00  <Galactus>	It's the master server not doing it's job, just like a couple of days ago where I could join uk gv
17:01  <Galactus>	I might be exploiting the fact that I can join this server right now, but it is in no way my fault that I can
17:01  <Galactus>	If I'd really be ban evading than it'd be completely my fault
17:02  <Galactus>	i'm not the one trying to evade my ban, it's the master server not registering my ban in stipsi's server
It takes a while for staff to finally respond and take action, but it's sad that this has even been able to happen in the first place. Personally for me this is ban evading, and should be treated as such. I'm tired of all these pathetic bullshit excuses of 'It's not my fault, there is a bug in server'. Why are you even trying to connect to servers knowing you are still supposed to be banned, never mind actually gaining access and playing them? It's a slap in the face to all the clean players around here that you are sat here exploiting the system and pretty much getting away with it^

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Post by Decay » Sat Feb 20, 2016 5:38 pm

If the server is broadcasted on the master, this is a ban evasion, pretty clear. Furthermore he is flaunting the fact he can join while banned. Obviously he doesn't care about his punishment despite crying about it for days, should probably give him another couple months of bantime or this sets a bad precedent.

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Post by Catastrophe » Sat Feb 20, 2016 5:45 pm

Initially I was defending Galactus, but damn, that really doesn't help your case dude...

edit: For the record, yes, that is ban evading. Same thing happened to Ral and his ban got extended.
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Post by Ivan » Sat Feb 20, 2016 5:57 pm

Well, the bells are ringing for Galactus. Good bye, again.
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Post by Ru5tK1ng » Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:10 pm

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Post by Mobius » Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:10 pm

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16:58  <Galactus>it's the master server being broken
16:58  <Galactus>a couple of days ago I could also join uk gv

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<+Mobius> I mean addiction
<+Galactus> i'm not addicted because I haven't ban evaded yet

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<Galactus>a couple of days ago I could also join uk gv
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Post by Ænima » Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:13 pm

First he exploited a client bug. Then he exploited the admins' generousity and dodged a lengthy ban. Now he's exploiting the fact that his current IP isn't on the banlist yet. You give him an inch, he takes a yard. And then a mile.

It's like if he escaped prison and said "Hey, they left my cell open and nobody was watching me, that basically means they want me to be free now!".

Normally I don't give a shit about who gets masterbanned because it really doesn't affect me, but LOL I say bump Galactus's ban length up to a year now just because I wanna see him cry about it.
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Post by Cyber' » Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:14 pm

Ban evasion. The user under the ban is supposed to be unable to play.
Regardless if it's the master acting up or not, the user takes that risk by joining a master broadcasted server under a ban. Should be common sense.
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Post by Ænima » Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:21 pm

Why do people even evade using their real nicks?

If I evaded just to be able to play the game, I would have at least used the name "Player" and not talked to anyone, much less brag to everyone on IRC that I found some kind of loophole in my punishment. I realize aliasing is frowned upon in priv, but he probably should have played somewhere else if he was dumb enough to evade and at least wanted to get away with it.
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Post by Stipsi » Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:37 pm

My servers are broadcasted on the masterserver, so yeah it's ban evading.

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Post by Samurai » Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:59 pm

So the verdict is a 3 month extension to his current ban, whenever that ends.

Congrats Galactus...

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Post by Decay » Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:09 pm

Don't forget

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<Galactus>you're lightyears away from having me banned for this
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Post by Erma » Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:42 pm

Here I thought that Galactus would be a good guy and take his punishment for exploiting a bug like a champ.

Apparently, he's basically doing the exact same thing: Exploiting stuff. And I agree with Cata here; I was sort of defending Galactus in a way for exploiting a bug for satire. Apparently, he's completely ignoring what has happened before, so for that I say: Admins, cleanup time! (of which; good job!)

What part of "You've been BANNED for an X amount of time from the master server." is so difficult to understand?
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Post by Mobius » Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:26 am

Erma wrote: Here I thought that Galactus would be a good guy and take his punishment for exploiting a bug like a champ.

Apparently, he's basically doing the exact same thing: Exploiting stuff. And I agree with Cata here; I was sort of defending Galactus in a way for exploiting a bug for satire. Apparently, he's completely ignoring what has happened before, so for that I say: Admins, cleanup time! (of which; good job!)

What part of "You've been BANNED for an X amount of time from the master server." is so difficult to understand?

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Post by TerminusEst13 » Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:53 am

Everyone's already come to the conclusion already, but just a friendly reminder from staff so we can end this on a solid note:

http://zandronum.com/forum/announcements.php?aid=17

We're still discussing ban lengths and punishments, but this part is pretty straightforward.
Ban evasion automatically warrants a 3 month extension to your existing master ban. It doesn't matter whether you knew you were evading or not, or whether it was "accidental" or not, or whether it was because of a bug or not.
(And if it was because of a bug, to broadcast it loudly and then continue playing? Really?)

If you step into a server you're supposed to be banned from, there's no second guessing. You're getting booted harder. So don't do that.
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Post by dart620 » Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:30 am

I hope this cheater will get longer ban.

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Post by John Zombie » Sun Feb 21, 2016 1:56 pm

I think Galactus is actually a good guy who cares about having a better community, seeing how he's doing everything he can to get his unpleasant presence out of here :biggrin:
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Post by Slim » Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:08 pm

Welp, Galactus really screwed the pooch. Just because they didn't put your ban on the list yet doesn't mean you're welcome to play. If you still wanna go play some games, go host your own server off the master and invite your buddies. Otherwise, go find something else to occupy your time besides lamenting over a ban you deserved.


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Post by Ru5tK1ng » Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:01 am

Sorry to break the news, but the dropping SSG meme is dead. Now you need to incorporate ban evasion in your avatars.
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Post by Zakken » Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:34 am

Ru5tK1ng wrote: Sorry to break the news, but the dropping SSG meme is dead. Now you need to incorporate ban evasion in your avatars.
On second thought, let's not. Let's give attention to people who deserve it, not clowns like this guy.
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