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[split] What is, for you , A mature community ?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:17 pm
by Dosum
http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=1582

Warning Date Issued Expiry Date Issued By
Useless and possibly agitating posting. Refer to the forum rules. (+2 points)
for post: [split] What is, for you , A mature community ? Useless posts Today, 02:13 AM 03-21-2013, 02:13 AM Metal

Are u kidding me?
What kind of forum ist this?
A forum where 13yo mods have fun to trash postings and to warn members for postings?

How old are you, that its not possible for you to let adults discuss without deleting posts or opinions you dont want agree?
And which kind of forum-moderating is this?
A Kindergarten forum? (i knew about)

And what do you mean with "useless", is it YOU to decide which post is useless?

Then it makes no sense to post in this forum and maybe you should better tell us that you want to keep the community as small as possible and that we should not discuss opinions you dont want to hear.

RE: What is, for you , A mature community ?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:30 pm
by Konda
Every opinion can be expressed with more respect than the way you did it in that trashed thread, and even now. It's a bit immature to insult people like that.

RE: What is, for you , A mature community ?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:41 pm
by Dosum
The way to trash postings without comment instead answering to them (for example like you did) is more mature?

RE: What is, for you , A mature community ?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:46 pm
by Konda
In your example, your statement could have offended someone, which would start a flame war. It is the best to cut things like that from the root. Besides, you did get a comment, in the warning. Although I agree that the comment could have been more precise in terms of what you did wrong.

RE: What is, for you , A mature community ?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:26 pm
by Dosum
No, I didnt get a comment exept "Useless and possibly agitating posting."
As I said "useless"?
Its my opinion, who decides what is useless or not.
"possibly"?
A well, good to know about clear defined rules here.
Konda wrote: your statement could
Konda wrote: which would
Konda wrote: the comment could
You notice something?

As I said, its Kindergarten to discuss in here, nothing to do with adults conversations.

But I dont care, have fun in your "community"
(which will be dead in a few years if you dont get mods who know how to lead and moderate a forum seriousley)

btw: Deleting posts in the clan area when clan members are discussing is the same.
Its the most destructive way to moderate a forum, to delete postings.
(I know some huge forums and posts will be deleted when they are racism, sexism etc, but nothing else)

Finally I can say - mature? Not zandronum.

RE: What is, for you , A mature community ?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:42 pm
by Qent
If anyone has a problem with moderators, this is not the thread to discuss it.

RE: What is, for you , A mature community ?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:45 pm
by Dosum
Well, we are talking about a mature community.
Deleting my opinion in this topic is not very mature and is -in my opinion- ontopic.

What is, for you , A mature community ? 1

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:47 pm
by Razgriz
Dosum wrote: No, I didnt get a comment exept "Useless and possibly agitating posting."
As I said "useless"?
Useless: Yes. You did not answer the question at all.
"You are talking to 13yo kiddies. " does not answer the question "What is, for you , A mature community?"
Dosum wrote:Its my opinion, who decides what is useless or not.
The moderators and admins of this forum.
Dosum wrote:"possibly"?
Possibly: Yes. Because not everyone is going to take offence to your comment, but at the same time someone will.
Dosum wrote:Irrelevant chatter
Dosum wrote:Finally I can say - mature? Not zandronum.
*shrug*

RE: [split] What is, for you , A mature community ?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:55 pm
by Metal
Dosum wrote: http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=1582

Warning Date Issued Expiry Date Issued By
Useless and possibly agitating posting. Refer to the forum rules. (+2 points)
for post: [split] What is, for you , A mature community ? Useless posts Today, 02:13 AM 03-21-2013, 02:13 AM Metal

Are u kidding me?
What kind of forum ist this?
A forum where 13yo mods have fun to trash postings and to warn members for postings?

How old are you, that its not possible for you to let adults discuss without deleting posts or opinions you dont want agree?
And which kind of forum-moderating is this?
A Kindergarten forum? (i knew about)

And what do you mean with "useless", is it YOU to decide which post is useless?

Then it makes no sense to post in this forum and maybe you should better tell us that you want to keep the community as small as possible and that we should not discuss opinions you dont want to hear.
Hi.
I'm 26/f/Canada.

All jokes aside, age has nothing to do with maturity. I know many 30 year olds who still act like they're 5.

And yes, it is ME who decides what posts are useless. Let me show you why your post was useless AND agitating.
You are talking to 13yo kiddies.
Not everyone here is 13, and indicating that everyone here is younger than you and less mature, is immature in itself.

Your post was also flamebait. Anyone could have taken that and argued it to death and made the whole thread derail. Reason #2 I split your post.

I also find it quite insulting that you're asking if this is a "kindergarden" moderating team. Please read through the rules once again, since I'm sure you haven't anyway.

Just because you're 'older' doesn't mean you can willy nilly do and say whatever you want. Respect the people on this forum. That includes their age, their opinion (whether they're 13 or not) and their right to be here. It's in the rules.

Thanks for reading.

Edit!
Saying the whole community is immature because you received a warning for a rule you broke is a little bit contradictory, don't you think?

RE: [split] What is, for you , A mature community ?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:59 pm
by mifu
With this type off attitude displayed here, you should be taking konda's reasoning to heart here.

He is right. You trashed that thread back there and you decide to blame the mods for it. Seeing as metal posted before me I'm just gonna say take her advice.

RE: [split] What is, for you , A mature community ?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:05 pm
by Zap610
@Dosum: It is absolutely justified that those posts were split, and you are presenting a fine example of how to be immature. First, posts are not deleted; they are moved to trash. Second, you have no right to insult other users. Everyone posts here with the expectation that they can be civil without people like you looking down at them just because of your age. I'm 23, if you want to insult me go ahead. But at the end of the day, I know I can express my thoughts without insulting users. Can you say the same? Third, you have yet to offer an actual solution or have brought up an issue in a civil, mature manner. Your opinion has very little weight if you insult this community by calling it a "kindergarten" while calling the staff "13 year olds". I don't know what you hope to accomplish by posting in this manner, but if it's to act mature you aren't even close.

RE: What is, for you , A mature community ? 1

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:39 pm
by Torvald
Is this really necessary? Something like this is best discussed with a staff member in PM. Making a scene on the public forums is just shooting yourself in the foot and asking for ridicule.

It's a warning, get over it.

RE: What is, for you , A mature community ? 1

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:51 pm
by W1D3A55
Dosum, I'm just gonna try and save you by telling you not to argue with me nor anyone else that's replied on this trashed post. You're honestly making yourself look like more of an immature, dense person than a reasonable, mature Zand member. And no, your post was pretty useless pertaining to the topic. The Moderators and Admins on this site are mature and smart enough to differentiate good posts and topics from the bad. Do not try and argue with them on a ludicrous situation, as you'll most likely lose.

RE: What is, for you , A mature community ? 1

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:03 am
by NachtIntellect
Why does he remind me of a certain someone?

Anyway I am not here to compare people but you shouldn't continue on this way, people on the forum will start to look down on you as a member for arguing with something so pointless, let the mods do their job and stop yourself from getting into further trouble the way I am looking at this if I continue to see you arguing/pushing that the fact the forum may or may not be immature, I might also see a ban enforced by one of the mods/admins and really I don't want to see anyone leave the forums especially over pointless discussions such as this, it is up for you to decide but on behalf of all the members.

Stop, just stop.

RE: What is, for you , A mature community ? 1

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:30 am
by Ijon Tichy
well damned if this wasn't a successful troll.

...

it's a troll right? :(

RE: What is, for you , A mature community ? 1

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:52 am
by Cyber'
I do believe nobody will mind if this thread goes away now that it's served its use. Yes?

RE: What is, for you , A mature community ? 1

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:05 am
by NachtIntellect
I do not mind, it was causing trouble.