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Replacement avatar system in the works
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:32 pm
by Wartorn
Blzut has made aware to me that he has a preliminary replacement system under construction. What he wants from us is discussion on a limitation of file size and frame limit on animations. The technical reasoning behind frame limit is because the server will have to process the images for resizing and reconstruction.
Some initial propositions on IRC were between the range of 200-256kb and 16-24 frames, I personally think this is a fine range.
EDIT: The system is moving out, to try it go to your
Change Avatar page, or this link:
http://zandronum.com/avatars/
RE: Replacement avatar system in the works
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:37 pm
by Metal
256KB is fine, but maybe a few more frames?
RE: Replacement avatar system in the works
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:52 pm
by infurnus
To avoid redundancy, to find out why we're renovating the avatar system check the
Site Relaunch post.
Also, I added some brief information to the
Change Avatar page a couple days ago.
Just a note about the animation frame limits:
From what I understand, each frame is resized, though I am unsure if this limit applies to animations under the total filesize limit. There will be clarification on this soon.
How's 32 frames sound?
RE: Replacement avatar system in the works
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:57 pm
by Blzut3
infurnus wrote:
From what I understand, each frame is resized, though I am unsure if this limit applies to animations under the total filesize limit. There will be clarification on this soon.
This applies to all animated images. They will be reprocessed roughly every 48 hours.
RE: Replacement avatar system in the works
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:07 pm
by Llewellyn
Wartorn wrote:
The technical reasoning behind frame limit is because the server will have to process the images for resizing and reconstruction.
Some initial propositions on IRC were between the range of 200-256kb and 16-24 frames, I personally think this is a fine range.
Will this cause problems with GIFs? Some gifs (
like mine) only animate once, then stop.
I also don't see why images need to be reprocessed, or if they fit the size limit and X/Y size limit why they need to be processed at all.
RE: Replacement avatar system in the works
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:24 pm
by Qent
is 7KB and 40 frames, if that gives you an idea.
RE: Replacement avatar system in the works
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:36 pm
by Blzut3
Llewellyn wrote:
I also don't see why images need to be reprocessed, or if they fit the size limit and X/Y size limit why they need to be processed at all.
There will be an option for people like me to disable animation for one. For two, smaller avatars may be used in places.
RE: Replacement avatar system in the works
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:49 pm
by Llewellyn
Blzut3 wrote:
There will be an option for people like me to disable animation for one. For two, smaller avatars may be used in places.
Well then you might want to include an option to "process" a certain frame as the "default" frame. For instance, my gif would look bad on the first, but good on the last. Qent's would look bad on any but the first (or maybe the last.)
RE: Replacement avatar system in the works
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:55 pm
by Blzut3
Llewellyn wrote:
Well then you might want to include an option to "process" a certain frame as the "default" frame. For instance, my gif would look bad on the first, but good on the last. Qent's would look bad on any but the first (or maybe the last.)
There would be some kind of heuristics yes. At the moment the plan is to have looping animations use the first, and terminating animations use the last.
RE: Replacement avatar system in the works
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:20 pm
by Torvald
Im all for whacky Gifs, but size definitely has to have some limits. I think 256-300 would be good enough.
RE: Replacement avatar system in the works
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:46 am
by Balrog
Idea: Have it so you have to click a link or press a button to reprocess your avatar.
RE: Replacement avatar system in the works
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:38 am
by Ijon Tichy
keep hotlinking and I will be happy
RE: Replacement avatar system in the works
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:34 am
by infurnus
The new avatar system is now live to the public.
http://zandronum.com/avatars/
Updated UCP Avatar page with more info & a link (F5 or Ctrl+F5, or Shift+F5 depending on browser/OS):
http://zandronum.com/forum/usercp.php?action=avatar
Non square and animating avatars return!
Don't like .GIF animations?
Google Chrome plugin: Gif Stopper (with whitelist)
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... km/details
Adblock+:
http://adblockplus.org/
This should also benefit the planned central user system, more info about that will come later.
RE: Replacement avatar system in the works
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:47 am
by Dusk
Yay, my avatar isn't oversized anymore
RE: Replacement avatar system in the works
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:48 am
by Llewellyn
weee he moves
RE: Replacement avatar system in the works
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:34 am
by someoneelse
Invalid format7593 when trying to use this pic:
RE: Replacement avatar system in the works
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:38 am
by Dark-Assassin
-=Dark-Assassin=- wrote:
I still don't see what is wrong with the forum's inbuilt avatar system. It works, I made it work better, then it just gets thrown away.
Also, this new system is being strict on maximum size on offsite links. Again, the inbuilt one didn't after a few tweaks.
RE: Replacement avatar system in the works
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:39 am
by Blzut3
-=Dark-Assassin=- wrote:
I still don't see what is wrong with the forum's inbuilt avatar system. It works, I made it work better, then it just gets thrown away.
What was "broken" was already stated. I'm not going to waste my time explaining it again.
-=Dark-Assassin=- wrote:
Also, this new system is being strict on maximum size on offsite links. Again, the inbuilt one didn't after a few tweaks.
I believe that size limitations should be imposed on off site links. An avatar is a way to visually identify the poster, not a way to share movies. The 256k limit is more than enough to do that.
RE: Replacement avatar system in the works
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:22 pm
by The Toxic Avenger
Looks like .png files with transparent backgrounds bug out when using a URL avatar. I think it's because the forums do not handle them properly (Disguise has the same problem with a black background added to his).
RE: Replacement avatar system in the works
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:31 pm
by Disguise
I see that GIFs don't have any problems? Because they don't appear to have any black background. And yeah, as TTA said my avatar has transparent background.
