Zandronum

introduce myself with this map to this forum.
I hope someone just upload it to a server to play survial online.


Plot.
You and the Eko team are send to a rescue mission on a new discovered planet called blue brother that is biological compatible as our planet earth, last teams charlie and delta send an Emergency message at HQ's at the moment they arrived the planet, last transmission we heard of them was:

- chiefcharlie:: Woow this planet is amazing.. This means a new world and begining for humanity.

- generaldynamitedelta:: lets explore that cave team..

13 minutes later

-marine chako (charlie team)::: We are under attack !!! Heeeeelppp !!!! An evil high tech army and some freaky creatures killed all delta team... Some charlie members got captured and I dotn know if they are alive or dead Im the last one free or alive.. Im just going back to that cave to look for them before is to.... :o. !!!...... Aaaarrgfghhh !!!!

Slasssh!!! Crraacckckck!!! Splaashh !!!
(rip and tear sound effects)


Tttssssssss..........................


End of transmition
nov 15 of 2069.

Mission:
Find survivors.

Kill all treaths

And Find what the hell is happening there we must conquer that planet for humanity.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzpMLeU...cslist_api
Episode One

Suspicious cave.
Enjoy it with brutal doom and complex doom. ;)

TTA's note: newer iteration of post with screenshots
[spoiler]Ok link of map.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzpMLe ... view?pli=1


And here are some pics.



http://i.imgur.com/stnJCAZ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/2KphJfl.png

http://i.imgur.com/ecPv2Fn.png

http://i.imgur.com/UCr1a7A.png

http://i.imgur.com/9xcZnkm.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Wn9AuCL.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/enmV68T.png

http://i.imgur.com/06b77op.jpg

Enjoy.


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But wait.!
There's more.

Alot of demons could make lag on a weak computer.

Here's the same version with less demons

(easy mode)


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzpMLe ... view?pli=1[/spoiler]

First off, if you're gonna post your wad, put some screenshots or a video up so we know what we're talking about/looking at.

That being said, this map is pretty bad, even for someone's """""""first""""""" map. Everything is so fucking spaced out its easy to avoid enemies. The layout and texturing makes this level somewhat confusing. So confusing I couldnt find the exit. Speaking of the layout, why are there like 10 extremely huge dropoffs? That in it of itself is a very huge turnoff. In fact, the only """nice""" thing i can say about this map is that the texturing in a FEW areas is okayish.

However, until you get better at mapping (and i mean a lot fucking better), I suggest that you refrain from posting more of your maps.

No screenshot no download

Catastrophe wrote: No screenshot no download

Through considering what Wide said, I doubt screenshot would change my mind that much

Felt like I was playing Maximum Doom!

10/10 I think I have problems now....

(Note: keep practicing on the basics of what makes a good map. This is not a good map.)

There is too much space and too many dark areas, but that's usual for a newbie map. Keep working on your mapping skills, don't get discouraged, this is just how the people are here. Check out scythe.wad, mm.wad, av.wad for some examples of "better" mapping that might inspire you. Keep on trying.

Not all of the places where you put light its really lightened up, but for a newbie map I give you a 2/5 for the big effort!
PS: Here you got some people that can help you at giving advices, try to learn from them.

The map itself is bad, but some parts of it speak loudly that you have some good ideas. How about trying to make a map imitating the original Doom1 style?

Thanks for all the comments. :)

When i was testing the map i was using project brutality

I will upload pics

Eko wrote: When i was testing the map i was using project brutality

You should always test or target maps like these at standard Doom. If you want it to be played with a specific mod, then say that.

Eko wrote: I will upload pics

Don't bother, this map is really bad - like Maximum doom or D! Zone bad. Ask for the moderators to kill this thread, and then you should take the time to learn the basics of making a map. There is a lot of tutorials around the internet, such as realm667, doomworld, and even Youtube, please utilize them and follow them. Also, ditch the story, its not needed and doesn't help make your map any better.

Tiger wrote: Ask for the moderators to kill this thread

Usually that's for blatant troll wads

Ænima wrote:

MetalGuy213 wrote:

Samuzero15tlh wrote:

The Toxic Avenger wrote:
Usually that's for blatant troll wads

Like the terry wads. Those shit deserve to die.

and sended to the Banned Wads in each Website on the IRC

My thoughts exactly.

No I dont think we should trash this thread. This is not even a terry wad.

I will advise though that this could be better but as for a first map, nice try EKO. I'd do what Doomkid suggested and take a few ideas :)

On a serious note, I have already split 10 posts out of this thread. I really would not like to have to split any more, so if I do I might have to warn you. Thanks!

I remember my first map, it was horrid but even I knew that and eventually I scrapped that, looked up some tutorials on ChubzDoomer's youtube channel and finally made Cave of remains for NZ:DE, it was truly a much better map in my perspective although looking back even that needs some improvements, always improve your map is my policy for creating and re-releasing maps with updates because there is always room for improvement and if you've learned something new, try it out to see how it works in your map and if you still can't decide, maybe get someone to test your map and tell you their problems with it.

I tried to create an adventure. :(

I will create another map if I get inspired.

I do really like open areas and big spaces to fight.
Puzzle levels or maze levels make my head dizzy (health talking lol)

One thing i tried to do is to create the map only for gameplay lol.. But i failed lol...

My inspiration for my next map are:

Chrono trigger
Contra 3 snes
And mario 3D Land

Lol lol lol.

Next time ama upload a bigger map.

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And i will upload pics

If you like big maps then i suggest you play B.P.R.D maps, he was "The Guy" back on 2000~2005 who made most of the greatest 'tall and big' maps (as for people who thinks Nuts.wad is just lag, that is the intention since it is a jokewad), especially Equinox wad, the maps there is big yet something acceptable on architeturing and texturing.

As for you map, i tried and it seems "fair" for a first map, some rooms with messy texturing, some others with complete nonsense stuff but in overall nothing that nobody already had in mind when opening (GZ)Doom Builder for the first times, i have to say that you did well avoiding the fucking STARTAN2 seizure that many people have when doing a first map.

some people act as if your first map required to be an total chaos mod '-'...
Also, there's no need to put screenshots if the map is short, as long as the author insert a download link (it's on the rules :p)...
The map is quite big and "detailed" for a first map, at least, mapping is easier now with gzdoom builder than doom builder 1 on my time

ibm5155 wrote: some people act as if your first map required to be an total chaos mod '-'...
Also, there's no need to put screenshots if the map is short, as long as the author insert a download link (it's on the rules :p)...
The map is quite big and "detailed" for a first map, at least, mapping is easier now with gzdoom builder than doom builder 1 on my time

On an offtopic note I just download GZDoomBuilder about a week ago, I am still getting used to it but I have to say, it's better than DoomBuilder, if you aren't using it already Eko, you should definitely try it some time.

ibm5155 wrote: some people act as if your first map required to be an total chaos mod '-'...
Also, there's no need to put screenshots if the map is short, as long as the author insert a download link (it's on the rules :p)...
The map is quite big and "detailed" for a first map, at least, mapping is easier now with gzdoom builder than doom builder 1 on my time

I just looked at them and you're completely wrong on that.