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Espio wrote: I'll be honest I complained a little about setting a map's default music to silence, but not enough to have a cvar built in to stop it entirely.

Isn't that what WAD editing is for? Can just delete the silence files and that's it really. Sure gotta do it for each release but at least it's a personal preference I can fix manually on my own.

#include "zcommon.acs"

script 722 OPEN
{
    ACS_ExecuteAlways(723);
}

script 723 (void) clientside
{
    if (!GetCVar("ph_enablemusic")) { LocalSetMusic("SILENCE"); }
    else { ConsoleCommand("set ph_enablemusic 0"); ConsoleCommand("archivecvar ph_enablemusic"); }
}

SwordGrunt wrote: I prefer suggesting things to the developers directly but fuck it, I'll post it here.

Two suggestions to make playable several maps that currently aren't:

First, a simple one: make props fire an invisible and harmless missile so they can trigger shoot/hit triggers (such as the spawn door on MAP18)

Second, to avoid exploits such as health bonuses walking into small passages that hunters can't go in (MANY maps have those, usually on liquids), you could give all props the default player height (56) and give them projectilepassheight equal to whatever they should have. In turn that would require changing the hitscan weapons to use FastProjectiles instead, which from my experience doesn't change anything, except possibly one thing that Hypno brought up: the netcode and/or unlagged may handle them differently. Honestly I've always worked with FastProjectiles to emulate hitscan and I've never noticed anything different from true hitscan, but it's still something that should be tested.

Ijon Tichy wrote: And that's not an issue in the slightest in this case. They're players. They're meant to be shot.

Edit: Where did the idea that you can't shoot props to check them come from? Shoot them. If they bleed, shoot them some more. That's prop-hunting 101.

Untitled wrote:

Ijon Tichy wrote: And that's not an issue in the slightest in this case. They're players. They're meant to be shot.

Edit: Where did the idea that you can't shoot props to check them come from? Shoot them. If they bleed, shoot them some more. That's prop-hunting 101.

I was referring to use of hitscan weapons. If it goes through a prop, the prop is a prop. If the hitscan hits the prop, it's a player.

SwordGrunt wrote:

Untitled wrote:

Ijon Tichy wrote: And that's not an issue in the slightest in this case. They're players. They're meant to be shot.

Edit: Where did the idea that you can't shoot props to check them come from? Shoot them. If they bleed, shoot them some more. That's prop-hunting 101.

I was referring to use of hitscan weapons. If it goes through a prop, the prop is a prop. If the hitscan hits the prop, it's a player.

But players bleed and props don't, so what's the difference?

Untitled wrote:It also encourages hiding by literally being in the middle of a bunch of trees making you difficult, but not impossible, to hit.

-Jes- wrote: Projectiles can cause bleeding, you just have to do their death states right.

And no, your shots no longer passing through solid decor actors won't be that big a difference either.
You'll still be checking for blood puffs - you just can't check anything behind that legit decor with the same shot anymore!

Untitled wrote:It also encourages hiding by literally being in the middle of a bunch of trees making you difficult, but not impossible, to hit.

Fixed that for you. If the prop could get inbetween a bunch of trees, then the hunter can get there as well.

actor BaseBullet : FastProjectile
{
	speed 512
	radius 4
	height 8
	+BLOODSPLATTER
	states
	{
		Spawn:
			TNT1 A 1
			loop
		Death:
			TNT1 A 1 A_SpawnItem("BulletPuff")
			stop
		Crash:
		XDeath:
			TNT1 A 1
			stop
	}
}

Frits wrote: Prophunt BETA5 released!
http://static.[bad site]/wads/prophunt-vb5.pk3

Most important changes: ph_notaunts and ph_enablemusic
enjoy!

[spoiler]Changelog:
Vb5
_________
- Some minor changes to the ACS barely worth mentioning [Hypnotoad]
- Added black screen override as suggested by Zeberpal, maps must execute script 750 on the very first tic in order to stop hunters getting black screen and being frozen. [Hypnotoad]
- Made sure taunts end after their duration, even if someone connects with a custom sndinfo [Hypnotoad]
- Added cvar, PH_ENABLEMUSIC to enable music again. Clients should use "set PH_ENABLEMUSIC 1" in console to enable music again, and "archivecvar PH_ENABLEMUSIC 1" to save this in their INI. [Hypnotoad]
- Added cvar, PH_NOTAUNTS to disable taunts. Clients should use "set_PH_NOTAUNTS 1" in console to disable taunts archivecvar PH_NOTAUNTS 1" to save this in their INI. [Frits/Hypnotoad]
- Fixed Computer Area Map Height[/spoiler]

SwordGrunt wrote: Right now the fun is dying out because almost all games are hunters chaingunning everything they see and chaingun tapping on all props they find. Almost no one uses the fist because unless you're going to check several dozen props and not find a single player, it doesn't really matter. And using the shotgun is kind of pointless since chaingun tapping is 100% accurate.

Sure the server can lower the damage inflicted by the shotgun, I lowered it to 5 from 6 and it still doesn't feel worth it, well no one uses it that's for sure, and it's not like shotgun needs a buff, IMO the chaingun tapping just needs to be removed.