Zombie HORDE - The mappack project! (11 / r27) 14/12/2015

[Niiro Kitsune]

It depends. Generally speaking, you can get away with a difficult resist on the first resist, since there`s only one zombie, and potentially 15 humans (but I generally only play at 16+ players - where two start zombies can really ruin a few maps. It`s not too bad, for the most part), but the last resist has to be the easiest to defend, since at that point there will be more zombies and less humans to defend them. This is a problem I've seen with several ZE maps. They're one-sided; either humans lock the start zombie down (and thus the map is almost certainly lost once two start zombies are selected at 16+ players), or the zombies just run forward and the humans can do nothing.

Another thing: imagine playing your map at 25-30 players, where there's two start zombies. The amount of grenades you get doesn't scale up, so that means that zombies can get an effectively free reign of the map.

Yet another problem with using the whole grenades and player skill as defense is that the zombies can get smart. What if the zombies decide to ignore the players and just run forward, getting to the final resist before the humans do? And this point, you're screwed (since once zombies are in the final resist, you're doomed).

Remember: one smart zombie can infect 3 people, but one smart human might kill, what, one zombie?

Maps that have final resist problems at really high player counts include:
ZE04
ZE06
ZE12
ZE15
ZE18
ZE20
ZE25

You make some very good points, thanks for explaining it this way. I'll take this into consideration when I update my map.

[Fused]

@Xsnake
While scrolling through the sounds, i have found a sound that appears as z_sound6. While listening to it, i dont recognise it.
It appears this is some unused zombie taunt, is that a mistake? If not, i guess i'll use it in canyon run as a spawn sound.

EDIT: almost forgot to mention that people complain about staying in the passed map on map change. I'm not sure if this is a general bug or just zombie horde, so i'm not putting it on the tracker.

EDIT2: another problem, on zm11 this time. Not major, but i'm afraid he misused the teleports. Because i constantly see teleport_fog in the sky, which is probably because people that fall into the water get teleported around a bit.

[ibm5155]

EDIT: almost forgot to mention that people complain about staying in the passed map on map change. I'm not sure if this is a general bug or just zombie horde, so i'm not putting it on the tracker.

yes, this is happening to me alot now and idk the why, it's not a specific map, and it wasn't happening before (maybe because before I didn't stay spectating too many times...)
but it only stay on the map if I'm doing something like pressing the talk button, menu...
I think I have more than 3 recordings with this problem

[Vincent(PDP)]

@Xsnake
Can you make a review of my map please?
I've decorated a little bit in a few more places on ZM10. And I've removed all unneccecary stuff that i can find.

(Sorry for nagging about this so much, but i really want to get finished with my map):
Which areas are the last one's i need to decorate? If you can send me some pictured of them that would be thankful. I know one area... That's a classroom with a wooden floor and a cameratexture-window.

Is there anything else that i need to fix before it can be included in ZH?

Download: http://www.mydoomsite.com/WADS/ZM10update25.zip

Map Size:
ZIPPED = 8,9 MB
UNZIPPED = 11,2 MB

[Niiro Kitsune]

......*sigh* I haven't changed much in terms of the resists, but here's an update >_>


changelog v06-

*removed ALL exploding barrels... -_-
*deleted SSG and marine/script... -_-
*extended area between 1st and 2nd resist
*improved water sectors
*added satellite decoration
*eliminated 2 unneeded scripts
*provided more grenades at final resist
*changed zombie spawn


EDIT: v07 in progress...

[Fused]

Alright another problem, again not sure if this is zh related. It seems like people lagg out on the map ze20 due to packet loss.

[Leonard]

not sure if this is zh related.

I'm sure it is the decorative fire actors being spammed by the meteors.

[Untitled]

You sure those don't have +NOINTERACTION and/or +CLIENTSIDEONLY (though if it's lagging out the client and not server that's not gonna help)?

[Leonard]

I recall the "zh-smoothweapons" addon having horrible lag issues in ze20 because better fire particles were implemented..
I think you are right the fire decorative actor uses clientsideonly but as far as I remember ze20 always worked well unless you spectated and went outside where you could see the fire and there you got horrible fps lag.
Nothing changed in ze20 regarding this but zandronum 1.2 is pretty recent. I think the clientside flag was somehow broken. I can only see that honestly..

[Vincent(PDP)]

New update:
http://www.mydoomsite.com/WADS/ZM10update26.zip

Changelog:
- Bug fixes.
- Started decorating the buildings with roofs.

[Niiro Kitsune]

Updated to v07


changelog-

*added LOTS of visual "stuff" to secret areas
*changed some text
*included green particle fountains
*fixed skybox
*rigged a █████ item
*disguised secret jax even more
*modified water sector height near dam

[Sean]

I'm going to try and make my own ZE map for Zombie Horde, wish me luck!

[Stiff]

Werent you that guy in the zh server today

[Sean]

Yeah.

I only come for ZE maps, I find ZM ones boring.

[Niiro Kitsune]

Yeah.

I only come for ZE maps, I find ZM ones boring.

If this is true, I don't think ZH is the game for you... >_>

[ibm5155]

I hope you're not barney the dinosaur (well, he was brazilian, but, you may fake your location at forum...)

[mr fiat]

I hope you're not barney the dinosaur (well, he was brazilian, but, you may fake your location at forum...)

barney the dinausaur already has a froum account not sure if its the same one tho.

[ibm5155]

funny discovery:
map ze19
summon ravishing
have fun :D

[Niiro Kitsune]

funny discovery:
map ze19
summon ravishing
have fun :D

Hahaha! Broken, but fun ;)

[Fused]

I havent been saying much about Cayon Run again, but it's still being worked on.

I had a problem with it, which involves portals. Pretty much a big fov causes this:
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I fixed this by placing a fan instead.

@stiff incase Total Destruction 3 will be finished sometime, the best way to fix the 3d lift from blocking is to make the blockable ceiling a crusher with speed 1. I did this too with the cargolift. Anything else wont work.

EDIT: Buried hopefully final update

-changed newstalagmite to newstalagmite2 and in reverse. Had alot of confusion myself with this
-fixed MONI, you were able to pick it up as zombie.
EDIT: i simply had to make it a CUSTOMINVENTORY, instead of INVENTORY...
-renamed MONI to MONIspawn.
-made MONI, which is pretty much an INVENTORY item needed to make it fully work
-removed lantern 2. I dont see a proper point in it anymore.
-gave MONIspawn a doomednum
-fixed the teleporter. I indeed forgot to add the setlineblocking to make it accesible again.
-fixed the barrel bug. For some reason the zh barrels had a weird physic, causing it to make it possible to block a teleporter
-fixed a spot where you were able to get stuck. (i used stalagmites to jump on, but i forgot the new ones had a greater height).
-triet to align as much textures as possible.
-the cave stalagmites block less, which was quite an issue.
-vent for the energy drink cannot be used by zombies
-jacks gun is a bit harder

http://static.[bad site]/wads/zm12finalv1b.wad

Please report any bugs. If there arent any bugs, i suppose this map could be added to the mappack. Everything i know of is fixed.