Dweller2 Map11 OS Duel Tourney!; Ammar wins!

[SwordGrunt]

Dweller2 map11 is a superb map. Keep your negativity to yourself please.

Best of luck with this!

Dweller is bad for OS. too much height variation and easy to camp. weapon placement is also weird on some places.

Damn Nati, you're forcing people to think on Doom. That's just too hard for some.

[ZZYZX]

Dweller2 map11 is a superb map. Keep your negativity to yourself please.

Best of luck with this!

Dweller is bad for OS. too much height variation and easy to camp. weapon placement is also weird on some places.

I have to agree with Decay on this, Dweller-11 is a pretty epic map. Never experienced any height problems there either.

[Wirtualnosc]

As I mentioned earlier, it will be an 8 player tourney unless many people want to sign up(which I doubt will happen)

Yeah, considering the wonderful map you picked for this

Dweller2 map11 is a superb map. Keep your negativity to yourself please.

Best of luck with this!

Dweller is bad for OS. too much height variation and easy to camp. weapon placement is also weird on some places.

Actually I think that's why people are loving this map?

Not that I'm fan of it either, but yeah.

[Ru5tK1ng]

Don't be such babies about the map and try to rain on the parade. If you like OS Dweller then great, if not, then move along and run your own tournament with your own ideal map. Then people will complain about your choice too!

[uggi121]

Hey Ammar, incase you pass by, I think we can play in like 4-5 hours (EST morning) or if you want later today when its night for you.

[Liam]

Score: 50-35 for Liam
Demo: Mediafire
Screenshot: Didn't take, sorry

I now know that reconnecting does not cause a new demo to be generated.

As such, the demo shown contains a couple test duels prior to the real one, apologies.

[Nati46]

Dweller2 map11 is a superb map. Keep your negativity to yourself please.

Best of luck with this!

Dweller is bad for OS. too much height variation and easy to camp. weapon placement is also weird on some places.

I have to agree with Decay on this, Dweller-11 is a pretty epic map. Never experienced any height problems there either.

Dunno how many games you played in it but if your opponent decides to keep campy the game could last for dozens of minutes. I recall a 40 frag game taking over 45 minutes (which is even longer than D2M1). Reason being that there is effectively one way to the top which is via the stairs, since using the tele would get you spawnkilled. People wold just camp somewhere at top every time and every 'standoff' would take seveal minutes at times. This is the main problem in the map imo.
Ofc if your opponent is cool and the game doesn't turn campy the map can be kinda cool I agree, but as this is a tourney there will prolly be a camping issue.

[uggi121]

Ammar (1) vs Uggi (0)

Score: 50-28 for Ammar
Demo: Click if you want c:\ crashing virus
Screenshot: Idk how and all, but it's missing, sorry.

[ZZYZX]

Reason being that there is effectively one way to the top which is via the stairs, since using the tele would get you spawnkilled.

There are like 3 teles that lead to the top. And it's pretty hard to simultaneously camp the stairs, the top tele (with the SSG) and two bottom teles. You can use RL for a while but meh, ammo ends eventually.

[Nati46]

Reason being that there is effectively one way to the top which is via the stairs, since using the tele would get you spawnkilled.

There are like 3 teles that lead to the top. And it's pretty hard to simultaneously camp the stairs, the top tele (with the SSG) and two bottom teles. You can use RL for a while but meh, ammo ends eventually.

It still usually gives you a head start, and sounds can help the other player figure where he's coming from. and the 2 teles are obsolete if the other player is in the top of the stairs since he can avoid damage if he stands right. Trust me I experienced campfests here that made Map01 look fast paced. U gotta agree the inane height variation coupled with this can make it feel uncomfortable at times.

[Vivid]

Dunno how many games you played in it but if your opponent decides to keep campy the game could last for dozens of minutes. I recall a 40 frag game taking over 45 minutes (which is even longer than D2M1). Reason being that there is effectively one way to the top which is via the stairs, since using the tele would get you spawnkilled. People wold just camp somewhere at top every time and every 'standoff' would take seveal minutes at times. This is the main problem in the map imo.
Ofc if your opponent is cool and the game doesn't turn campy the map can be kinda cool I agree, but as this is a tourney there will prolly be a camping issue.

Is any of this really necessary for a tournament thread for Dweller? Let people enjoy their games.

[Ru5tK1ng]

@Nati

I guess it must not be well known but tournaments usually try to keep things fresh by running maps that may not always be the 'classics' or a 'favorite'. At least, that's how they should be ran ideally. If a player is that upset over a map choice, then he can just go play something else and move on. I don't see why you feel you're entitled to devalue this guy's tournament and the participants just because you don't like the map.

[Liam]

Score: 50-31 for Liam
Demo: Mediafire
Screenshot: [spoiler][/spoiler]

[one_Two]

Oh poor ide and his headache :(

[IdeIdoom]

That headache came from (probably) too much heat in the house + playing too much just to get the duel starting.
Though, he won fair and square.

[Kara Kurt]

What's new since your vacation, Galactus?
Can we know why you did not disqualify yourself from here too?

[spoiler][/spoiler]

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[Galactus]

The problem is not that he was playing a tournament on ZD, the picture itself was just made ​​to help us find out why he suddenly has decided to discontinue, but not on this tournament there.

Hey kara kurt, did you actually know that I asked uggi to disqualify me from this tourny, but that he just hasn't done it yet?

[Kara Kurt]

As if by magic.

Why it is so hard to schedule and play a 10 minutes game?
Why register in a tournament when you clearly know you can not be 100% dedicated to it or can not manage/ predict your schedule properly?

[Galactus]

Sorry but I can't predict my pc going apeshit besides Vody refused to play our match when I could still play

Edit: also we probably shouldn't talk about zdaemon related stuff on the zandronum forums

[Nati46]

@Nati

I guess it must not be well known but tournaments usually try to keep things fresh by running maps that may not always be the 'classics' or a 'favorite'. At least, that's how they should be ran ideally. If a player is that upset over a map choice, then he can just go play something else and move on. I don't see why you feel you're entitled to devalue this guy's tournament and the participants just because you don't like the map.

It was not an attempt to devalue anyone at all, I actually appreciate uggi for trying to run this and so far it seems pretty good, I just gave my personal opinion about the map. If others appreciate it and enjoy which seems so then I am anything but upset over it.