Difference between Projects and Releases subfourm?

[Llewellyn]

I really think the Projects and Releases subforums should be combined.
Here is the reasoning:
If someone releases a completed project, it should go into Releases.
If they decided to start updating it, it would be a project and then should be moved into Projects, until such time as it would stop being worked on, and be a release.
Now from the other side, if someone starts working on a project, but stops (even before it is finished) it is now a release, and should be in the releases forum. If someone were to move it, and then it started getting worked on again, it should get moved back into projects.

An example is the Super Skulltag wad. It is a "Release" and is even titled as such, yet is in projects because it is still being worked on.

While the forum is still new, most (if not all) the projects are currently "relevant" and are still being worked on. Eventually (if there is an eventually) the Projects forum will be littered with "releases" that will need to be moved, and possibly vice versa with the Releases forum (see topics that say [Updated!])

Also theres a certain amount of confusion on whether to put a release that may still have features added to it eventually in Releases or Projects. If you're going to use the Releases forum for old files that aren't going to be touched (mostly what its being used for now) then it needs to be appropriately named for such (I have no ideas on that part) instead of being merged like the original suggestion.

[The Toxic Avenger]

This is very very impractical. It's still in projects because it's still being worked on. Just because there's a release of it does not mean it can't be continued to be worked on.

Just because something is no longer worked on does not mean it's a release. A WIP wad is also not a release. This is way too impractical of a suggestion, would be met with heavy criticism, and would be extremely difficult to run.

[Qent]

Please combine them. Even if their purposes were distinct, mod authors haven't a clue so if you're looking for something then you'd better check both places anyway. It was such a pain on the old forums.

[Dark-Assassin]

Projects is for new and incomplete projects. WIP, Alphas, Betas and Release Candidates.
Releases for pretty much stable and near, if not, final released projects.

This is how it has always been.

[NeuralStunner]

Please combine them. Even if their purposes were distinct, mod authors haven't a clue so if you're looking for something then you'd better check both places anyway. It was such a pain on the old forums.

I have to agree. "That's how it's always been" isn't always a valid reason to keep doing something. Look how much has changed already. ;)

If a project is both released and still under modification, then you have two threads? Or worse, have the mods move them back and forth? Either is just as confusing.

I don't think it would hurt to add a [Release] tag, and merge both forums.

[Llewellyn]

I have to agree. "That's how it's always been" isn't always a valid reason to keep doing something. Look how much has changed already. ;)

I was thinking similarly, if we kept to our old methods we'd still be on dial-up!
Same isn't always best.

I don't think it would hurt to add a [Release] tag, and merge both forums.

It already has one, I mentioned in the OP that Super Skulltag is tagged as a release.

Projects is for new and incomplete projects. WIP, Alphas, Betas and Release Candidates.
Releases for pretty much stable and near, if not, final releases.

Then you're either looking at moving a lot of threads, or completely ignoring this rule.

[Ænima]

actually you said mercs ;p

[Llewellyn]

actually you said mercs ;p

Sue me, the Kindle wasn't intended to be used to write clear and coherant sentences. :P

Also, Toxic Avenger, it would be much easier to run because you wouldn't have to keep track of and move projects from one section to the other.

[Dynamo]

22:12 <Dusk> to be honest i'd like to see them merged too
22:12 <Dynamo> me too, but it'd be nice to have an icon to see what's released and what's not
22:12 <Dusk> yeah
22:12 <Dynamo> or if not an icon then something else that does the trick
22:13 <Dusk> a tag should do it

[Dark-Assassin]

Alright, maybe. But I may also enforce the requirement for thread prefixes.

[Wartorn]

I'm not against the idea of the merge either. The original Projects forum on Skulltag was originally used to sanction large community projects. As it turns out that seems to be a dying breed here though. Less is more in this case I suppose.

[Dark-Assassin]

OK, Done...

[NeuralStunner]

I like the new layout. Thanks. :)

[Guest]

So... Will we have to search what is released and what is not, one by one?

Without a tool or something to filter what is released and what is not?

Situation like SST should have an alpha and a stable branch, so the stable would be put in releases, (almost) bug-free. If the update is a bug fix, it's still stable.

What a mess. Sincerely, this is a change I would like to see reverted and more discussion being put or put an alternative to the releases subforum, since normal users won't give a F to what is being developed, until it is released.

[Ijon Tichy]

So... Will we have to search what is released and what is not, one by one?

Without a tool or something to filter what is released and what is not?

Situation like SST should have an alpha and a stable branch, so the stable would be put in releases, (almost) bug-free. If the update is a bug fix, it's still stable.

What a mess. Sincerely, this is a change I would like to see reverted and more discussion being put or put an alternative to the releases subforum, since normal users won't give a F to what is being developed, until it is released.

read: add a "Sort by Tag" button

[Guest]

This.