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The wiki needs more attention :(

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Post by Catastrophe » Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:07 am

Could you guys add a quick link to the wiki, right next to calendar? Just for convenience, since I usually go straight to the forums instead of the main site.

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Post by Konar6 » Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:42 am

It's unfortunate that the wiki is left so much behind in contributions or even referencing it around, while it's clearly the best possible place for sharing all kinds of tutorials, information and even technical "under the hood" stuff.
Its big advantage over the forum is that everyone can collaborate in creating articles. For example, it's a big shame that threads like Zandronum pill or Clan listing are not wiki articles instead, so that anyone could update or expand them, in case the original poster becomes slow, busy or ceases to update at all.
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Post by Hypnotoad » Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:25 am

One problem is that it is very difficult to get the wiki on google (in fact it does not seem to be on google at all for some strange reason), and it is scarcely advertised at all on the forum, so many people are probably unaware it even exists. The only sign of its existence is the small link on the home page. This should probably be rectified.

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Post by mifu » Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:45 pm

Is anyone currently maintaining the wiki at the moment?

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Post by infurnus » Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:00 pm

Hmm.. Tiger was the original Wiki maintainer and helped set up our wiki, but I don't think much happened with it after it was set up and working.

I added a link to our Wiki at the top of the forums, as well as a link to the Steam group, as per requests. Sorry that I didn't do this last year, oops!

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Post by one_Two » Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:11 pm

What about a link for the tracker?

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Post by infurnus » Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:21 pm

Hnnnghh [it's done]

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Post by someoneelse » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:52 pm

Why is Wiki ungooglable? It's like it wasn't even existing. And it's really hard to find anything in there. Search option isn't perfect so I had to ask people who had seen article name before to link me.
Can you allow robots and, kind of, make it possible for most of people to use it?
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Post by infurnus » Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:26 pm

Odd, our robots.txt doesn't disallow the wiki from being crawled.
I don't think I have access to the wiki itself (my user on there is a regular one, not an admin or anything like that), so as far as I know I can't fix it right now.
I'm not sure about the other stuff, I'd suggest making a suggestion on the tracker, then at least the dev team can see it.
someoneelse wrote: make it possible to use it for most of people?
No offense but what am I reading :igor:
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Post by Catastrophe » Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:11 pm

Strange whenever I go on the tracker it doesn't give me an option to report a site issue.

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Post by someoneelse » Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:31 pm

infurnus wrote: Odd, our robots.txt doesn't disallow the wiki from being crawled.
http://wiki.zandronum.com/robots.txt
User-agent: *
Disallow: /
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Post by Konar6 » Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:31 pm

I fixed it. I wasn't aware of the reason for this setting. *glares @ Tiger*
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Post by infurnus » Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:47 pm

someoneelse wrote:
infurnus wrote: Odd, our robots.txt doesn't disallow the wiki from being crawled.
http://wiki.zandronum.com/robots.txt
User-agent: *
Disallow: /
Okay that is really weird, that's not what I see when I go into the site through FTP.

This is what it looks like on my end:

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User-agent: *
Disallow: /tracker/
I'll see if I can get in touch with the site admin

EDIT: OHH the wiki robots.txt! I don't think I have access to that
EDIT2: I should also refresh my tab before replying!
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Post by someoneelse » Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:52 am

Well, I googled for "zandronum wiki" and got nothing. But of course, it's newly opened for google, so it must be low in ranks.
So I googled for "site:http://wiki.zandronum.com irc" and got two results... "IRC" and "IRC Channel Modes" (no user modes page though).
Better than nothing, I just wonder if it's a temporary setting or if there are any reasons for it to be like this.
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Post by infurnus » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:35 pm

I sent a webmaster tools request to Google to re-index the wiki subdomain. It will hopefully be fixed within 24 hrs or less.

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Post by Watermelon » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:57 pm

The search bar needs to be upgraded. If you don't know a cvar name you're pretty much screwed, for example:

If you want r_drawplayersprites and type r_drawplayersprite it will tell you that no such thing exists.

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Post by Lollipop » Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:53 pm

Watermelon wrote: The search bar needs to be upgraded. If you don't know a cvar name you're pretty much screwed, for example:

If you want r_drawplayersprites and type r_drawplayersprite it will tell you that no such thing exists.
Splendid idea, I think it should Work kind of like the zdoom wiki on tht point, where is comes with suggestions on just what you are trying to find, which is pretty usefull.
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Post by Torr Samaho » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:40 pm

infurnus wrote:

Code: Select all

User-agent: *
Disallow: /tracker/
I think the tracker should be indexed too: http://zandronum.com/tracker/view.php?id=1406

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