Can't see Zdaemon servers on Doomseeker 0.10

[dylstew]

I just downloaded Doomseeker 0.10 and Zandronum 1.2, but I can't see the Zdaemon servers, even tough I have it enabled under ''query''. They do show up in IDE.

[Kara Kurt]

Guess you're banned from the masterservers :D

Joke aside...

Well, I'm not sure we can use Doomseeker to see servers from different port... anyway you should use Internet Doom Explorer then.

In case you're having issues with IDE, there is nothing much I can do but say you could go to Zdaemon forums/IRC and try finding Bond since he's the creator of IDE.

[Watermelon]

ZDaemon changed their encryption settings to prevent Doomseeker from indexing servers because ZDaemon wants their clients going through ZLauncher and IDE only.

[infurnus]

The developer of IDE can also be contacted on our forums if needed: http://zandronum.com/forum/member.php?a ... le&uid=151

[mr fiat]

ZDaemon changed their encryption settings to prevent Doomseeker from indexing servers because ZDaemon wants their clients going through ZLauncher and IDE only.

and the purpose of that is?

[Konar6]

ZDaemon developers are known for actively prohibiting 3rd party software from accessing their services, especially tools made by community members of another Doom ports.
Spite? 100% control? Shrug, you tell me.

[dylstew]

Well, I prefer IDE to doomseeker, but with IDE I don't have as many options when it comes to starting a server. For example, the ''alternate Iwad;; is grayed out, so I can't start a megaman 8 bit dm server. So I use IDE for playing games, and doomseeker for making them. However, it'd be nicer to just use a single server browser. Zdaemon is a lot worse than Zandronum anyways, but they play DM(and some other gamemodes) a lot more than zandronum players do , which I sometimes feel like playing.

It's weird how zdaemon developors don't want their serverlist in third party sofware.. that's pretty retarded, what's the point in that? Losing players?

[Konar6]

"Alternate IWAD" is something completely different than what you seek when desired to host megaman. Alternate IWAD is a ZD feature used to utilize FreeDoom as an option to play on doom1/2 wad servers. You want to simply select the megagame wad as "IWAD".
This confusion aside, IDE seems to have more features [not only] for starting servers, e.g. fully configurable dmflags, support for join passwords, and a decent IRC client.

[dylstew]

Than how do I start a game on a custom wad? only doom, doom2, plutionia, tnt, herectic, hexen and strife's wads show up :/, but under the additional Pwads everything shows up.
Also, IDE kinda confuses me xP.

[Blzut3]

Just to make sure ZDaemon's official word gets repeated: Supposedly if I had asked them before implementing the ZDaemon plugin they would have considered it. However, since I reversed engineered their protocol, they decided to stop it. I offered to "start over," but they have no interest. (This exchanged happened on Doomworld if anyone is interested in searching for the drama.)

Even before I did the reverse engineering I had asked every person requesting Doomseeker support to contact Kilgore and none of them did. There's a definite problem with the community if people are afraid asking the staff a question will get them a ban. :P The big reason I didn't contact him myself is because they don't give any way to contact outside of using their propreitary IRC client to connect to their IRC server.

I don't personally believe their PR story since there chat logs of Kilgore declaring war on Doomseeker because of the affiliation with Skulltag alone, but whatever. In any case if you want ZDaemon support in Doomseeker you'll need to bug the ZDaemon staff about it, it's not up to me and I'm far too busy with more productive stuff than playing cat and mouse with them.

[Konar6]

Than how do I start a game on a custom wad? only doom, doom2, plutionia, tnt, herectic, hexen and strife's wads show up :/, but under the additional Pwads everything shows up.
Also, IDE kinda confuses me xP.

Easy, IDE doesn't recognize megaman's IWAD, but you can force it anyway by entering megagame.wad

I don't personally believe their PR story since there chat logs of Kilgore declaring war on Doomseeker because of the affiliation with Skulltag alone, but whatever.

This.

[Zalewa]

fully configurable dmflags

Which dmflags aren't configurable in Doomseeker?

[Konar6]

Oh excuse me, I was stuck with an older version which lacked dmflags3 and compatflags2. I just checked the latest version and I see the config window is reworked to include all dmflags.
This was one of Doomseeker's cons for which I which I wouldn't recommend it [for starting servers]. Glad that it was improved on this front.

[dylstew]

Than how do I start a game on a custom wad? only doom, doom2, plutionia, tnt, herectic, hexen and strife's wads show up :/, but under the additional Pwads everything shows up.
Also, IDE kinda confuses me xP.

Easy, IDE doesn't recognize megaman's IWAD, but you can force it anyway by entering megagame.wad

I don't personally believe their PR story since there chat logs of Kilgore declaring war on Doomseeker because of the affiliation with Skulltag alone, but whatever.

This.

Thanks, I didn't try just typing megagame.wad, it works.
my questions have been answered :P.