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The game runs at a choppy 2 FPS on Windows 10.

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:59 pm
by Fierra2005
So Zandronum runs at 2 FPS on windows 10 without the fps counter.

Re: The game runs at a choppy 2 FPS on Windows 10.

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:28 pm
by ARGENTVM
Okay. What were you trying to run?
Software or OpenGL?
Computer Specs?

Re: The game runs at a choppy 2 FPS on Windows 10.

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:43 pm
by Fused
What happends if you set vid_fps 1 in console?

Re: The game runs at a choppy 2 FPS on Windows 10.

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:47 am
by Fierra2005
ARGENTVM wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:28 pm
Okay. What were you trying to run?
Software or OpenGL?
Computer Specs?
OpenGL.

Re: The game runs at a choppy 2 FPS on Windows 10.

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:51 am
by Fierra2005
Fused wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:43 pm
What happends if you set vid_fps 1 in console?
It runs smoothly.
Blame Windows 10.

Re: The game runs at a choppy 2 FPS on Windows 10.

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:53 am
by Catastrophe
Fierra2005 wrote:
Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:51 am
Fused wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:43 pm
What happends if you set vid_fps 1 in console?
It runs smoothly.
Blame Windows 10.
Nah not win10 fault

Re: The game runs at a choppy 2 FPS on Windows 10.

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:04 am
by Sean
Catastrophe wrote:
Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:53 am
Nah not win10 fault
Blame Windows 10 anyway, it's ruined everything else.

Re: The game runs at a choppy 2 FPS on Windows 10.

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:44 am
by Fused
Fierra2005 wrote:
Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:51 am
Fused wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:43 pm
What happends if you set vid_fps 1 in console?
It runs smoothly.
Blame Windows 10.
It has something to do with your video card only working when you enable the fps counter. It was already reported numerous times, but I'm curious why 3.0 doesn't have the fix added.

Re: The game runs at a choppy 2 FPS on Windows 10.

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:12 pm
by Fierra2005
Fused wrote:
Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:44 am
Fierra2005 wrote:
Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:51 am
Fused wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:43 pm
What happends if you set vid_fps 1 in console?
It runs smoothly.
Blame Windows 10.
It has something to do with your video card only working when you enable the fps counter. It was already reported numerous times, but I'm curious why 3.0 doesn't have the fix added.
Since i use a notebook with a celeron with intel hd graphics and not an atom.
And can someone upload the fix?

Re: The game runs at a choppy 2 FPS on Windows 10.

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:19 pm
by The Toxic Avenger
You're expecting a miracle fix here, which isn't what is going to happen unless you provide specs so people can understand what's going on there.

Re: The game runs at a choppy 2 FPS on Windows 10.

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 5:45 pm
by Fierra2005
The Toxic Avenger wrote:
Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:19 pm
You're expecting a miracle fix here, which isn't what is going to happen unless you provide specs so people can understand what's going on there.
The Integrated graphics is your typical Intel HD Graphics, etc.

Re: The game runs at a choppy 2 FPS on Windows 10.

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:57 pm
by Torr Samaho
Fused wrote:
Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:44 am
It has something to do with your video card only working when you enable the fps counter. It was already reported numerous times, but I'm curious why 3.0 doesn't have the fix added.
Which fix? Do you mean to automatically turn on the FPS counter on affected machines as workaround for the problem?

Re: The game runs at a choppy 2 FPS on Windows 10.

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:52 pm
by Fierra2005
Torr Samaho wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:57 pm
Fused wrote:
Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:44 am
It has something to do with your video card only working when you enable the fps counter. It was already reported numerous times, but I'm curious why 3.0 doesn't have the fix added.
Which fix? Do you mean to automatically turn on the FPS counter on affected machines as workaround for the problem?
Yeah.

Re: The game runs at a choppy 2 FPS on Windows 10.

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:04 am
by Fused
Torr Samaho wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:57 pm
Fused wrote:
Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:44 am
It has something to do with your video card only working when you enable the fps counter. It was already reported numerous times, but I'm curious why 3.0 doesn't have the fix added.
Which fix? Do you mean to automatically turn on the FPS counter on affected machines as workaround for the problem?
Well yeah, it's more of a workaround than a fix ofcourse. But the problem has existed for a while now and was known for a while aswel, so I'm wondering why it isn't just forced in the background for now, and have vid_fps simply display the number rather than fully enabling it.

Re: The game runs at a choppy 2 FPS on Windows 10.

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:49 pm
by ibm5155
The "problem" is that intel dropped the support for older intel gpus (hd 3000 and lower) a long time ago (since 2015), while it worked somehow with older Windows 10 builds it was basically a Windows 8.1 driver running in Windows 10.
The creators update had done something that the intel legacy drivers broken (Like here, rage only shows blue textures, vavoom doesn't even start,...)

EDIT:
Here're the list of supported intel gpus for Windows 10 https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en ... ivers.html

Re: The game runs at a choppy 2 FPS on Windows 10.

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:12 pm
by Fierra2005
ibm5155 wrote:
Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:49 pm
The "problem" is that intel dropped the support for older intel gpus (hd 3000 and lower) a long time ago (since 2015), while it worked somehow with older Windows 10 builds it was basically a Windows 8.1 driver running in Windows 10.
The creators update had done something that the intel legacy drivers broken (Like here, rage only shows blue textures, vavoom doesn't even start,...)

EDIT:
Here're the list of supported intel gpus for Windows 10 https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en ... ivers.html
Then blame Microsoft. Intel.

Re: The game runs at a choppy 2 FPS on Windows 10.

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:54 pm
by Combinebobnt
the megamans ran into this problem too. guess ur just gonna have to play with the fps counter on for now until its fixed or whatever

Re: The game runs at a choppy 2 FPS on Windows 10.

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:47 pm
by ibm5155
Combinebobnt wrote:
Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:54 pm
the megamans ran into this problem too. guess ur just gonna have to play with the fps counter on for now until its fixed or whatever
Or get a gpu

Re: The game runs at a choppy 2 FPS on Windows 10.

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:13 pm
by Sean
ibm5155 wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:47 pm
Combinebobnt wrote:
Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:54 pm
the megamans ran into this problem too. guess ur just gonna have to play with the fps counter on for now until its fixed or whatever
Or get a gpu
Or not use Windows 10

Re: The game runs at a choppy 2 FPS on Windows 10.

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:03 am
by ibm5155
Somehow, my intel gpu is working fine with zandronum 3.0 , idk if it's related to this new big Windows update or because I'm using a quite old driver.
In case you have a listed cpu from that link you could try this driver: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/downlo ... duct=81500
(Yeah win10 not listed there but it worked here)