SNS #101 - Alien Vendetta + HR2 with Samsara - 20 years of doom special!
RE: SNS #101 - Alien Vendetta + HR2 with Samsara - 20 years of doom special!
Samsara has a script that does dozens of TakeInventories per tic per player. That was responsible for at least some of the problems that cropped up, e.g. jitter and players getting kicked for too many missed packets.
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RE: SNS #101 - Alien Vendetta + HR2 with Samsara - 20 years of doom special!
Qent has it. The short of the matter is, well, Samsara's never had this many dudes playing it before, and the sheer numbers of constant loops made the server beg for mercy.
From what I can gather Zandronum can only handle so many player updates every tic. 64 players completely vanilla is pretty much no problem, but when you add gameplay mods into the equation then things get a little questionable because there's a lot of extra data to transmit. While Samsara can handle a lot of people, even the biggest servers have never gone above 45 players. When you get a full 64 active players in the game, with new classes and weapons and constant checks running every tic, that’s a LOT of extra data to send back and forth from the servers to the players and back again.
Samsara has never been tested with a full 64 active players, and one_Two and Sicamore and I overestimated how well it could perform. If it was on a 32-player server, it would have handled perfectly. Hell, we even did do a 32-player-limit for a bit and it handled pretty well.
I want to personally apologize to everyone who was looking forward to this.
I really did not expect this to happen; I hastily plowed ahead under the impression everything would be fine, and it ended up disappointing a lot of people who were really looking forward to it.
I’m very, very sorry.
From what I can gather Zandronum can only handle so many player updates every tic. 64 players completely vanilla is pretty much no problem, but when you add gameplay mods into the equation then things get a little questionable because there's a lot of extra data to transmit. While Samsara can handle a lot of people, even the biggest servers have never gone above 45 players. When you get a full 64 active players in the game, with new classes and weapons and constant checks running every tic, that’s a LOT of extra data to send back and forth from the servers to the players and back again.
Samsara has never been tested with a full 64 active players, and one_Two and Sicamore and I overestimated how well it could perform. If it was on a 32-player server, it would have handled perfectly. Hell, we even did do a 32-player-limit for a bit and it handled pretty well.
I want to personally apologize to everyone who was looking forward to this.
I really did not expect this to happen; I hastily plowed ahead under the impression everything would be fine, and it ended up disappointing a lot of people who were really looking forward to it.
I’m very, very sorry.
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RE: SNS #101 - Alien Vendetta + HR2 with Samsara - 20 years of doom special!
As someone told you already: it's not your fault Term.
Shit happens
Shit happens
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RE: SNS #101 - Alien Vendetta + HR2 with Samsara - 20 years of doom special!
why 1 life shouldnt it be unlimited unless its gonna be a massive amount of lag
im that neko that you tried to kill, now im back and im gonna get you *gitterskull noises*
RE: SNS #101 - Alien Vendetta + HR2 with Samsara - 20 years of doom special!
SNS stands for:ryupichu suszuki wrote: why 1 life shouldnt it be unlimited unless its gonna be a massive amount of lag
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....SURVIVAL. Therefore there needs to be a set amount of lives.
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RE: SNS #101 - Alien Vendetta + HR2 with Samsara - 20 years of doom special!
i know what sns stands for, well then i dont wanna get me arse kicked while john is around then XD, best thing is that i have no school tomarrow so i can do this
im that neko that you tried to kill, now im back and im gonna get you *gitterskull noises*
RE: SNS #101 - Alien Vendetta + HR2 with Samsara - 20 years of doom special!
You sure you know what SNS stands for?ryupichu suszuki wrote: i know what sns stands for, well then i dont wanna get me arse kicked while john is around then XD, best thing is that i have no school tomarrow so i can do this
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RE: SNS #101 - Alien Vendetta + HR2 with Samsara - 20 years of doom special!
Survival = Cooperative with limited lives.
Seriously, if you thought it was Deathmatch then the name for THAT gametype is Last Man Standing.
Seriously, if you thought it was Deathmatch then the name for THAT gametype is Last Man Standing.
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RE: SNS #101 - Alien Vendetta + HR2 with Samsara - 20 years of doom special!
They might be confusing this event for Doom's 20th Anniversary, since they're talking about tomorrow (er, today). How you miss the fact that Saturday Night Survival is on Saturday, I'm not sure. Or the fact that the SNS in question was three days ago, and all the discussion about it since.
But, I could be the one misunderstanding here.
But, I could be the one misunderstanding here.
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RE: SNS #101 - Alien Vendetta + HR2 with Samsara - 20 years of doom special!
Ive played sns before, i know what it meansone_Two wrote:You sure you know what SNS stands for?ryupichu suszuki wrote: i know what sns stands for, well then i dont wanna get me arse kicked while john is around then XD, best thing is that i have no school tomarrow so i can do this
im that neko that you tried to kill, now im back and im gonna get you *gitterskull noises*