Ru5tK1ng wrote: ↑Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:56 pm
And I'm actually in the NJ mod channel where it seems at least once a week there is always an issue with some of the common names. Shane has been making a hard effort to clean up priv. However, going by nax's policy, I see no reason why repeat offenders wouldn't be considered for removal. So unlike you, I actually have insider knowledge of NJ moderation.
The difference here is that your source of information is no more than hearsay, whereas most of the time, I'm actually in the server seeing the events unfolding. Even still, one incident a week isn't too bad in my opinion... Although I'm also of the belief that punishments should be harsher, because repeat offenders not learning their lesson seems to be a recurring thing here!
IdeIdoom wrote: ↑Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:04 pm
Hmm, this whole "I am lead admin, I do this decision because I can" is breaking that rule
It is Nax's decision, but when the rest of the staff is in agreement with it, alongside the majority of the community, that gives it a
lot more validation than you think. Staff should reserve the right to remove major liabilities to the community without the need of a rule telling them to do so, and trying to shift the discussion towards a path of rule semantics seems like a dishonest attempt to invalidate all of the grievances caused by said liability.
IdeIdoom wrote: ↑Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:04 pm
Many users are way worse than what Mobius has done in this thread but they get a free pass?
You guys defending Mobius sure have a lot of mystery individuals who are supposedly worse for the community than he has ever been! Care to share some light on who they are?
IdeIdoom wrote: ↑Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:04 pm
Even decay has been awfully "vocal" in a civil thread
Given how Mobius was many times worse in discussions for the past years, I personally believe he had it coming to him.
jdagenet wrote: ↑Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:24 pm
I did not want to get involved, but the amount of corruption and dishonesty inclines me to do so.
You know what? You're right about this. But the only corruption and dishonesty I'm seeing here is from you and four other A3-drones coming out of the woodwork to protect your leader while trying to sell us the idea that you aren't too damn biased to provide fair arguments. Everyone not associated with A3 is in favour of a ban. Ex-A3 members like Decay and TTA know their game and are also in favour of a ban. Even
Razgriz is taking up a stand against him. But I guess it's easier to just point fingers at everyone else from your perspective.
Your argument is bogus to the very core. The GZDoom and Blitz debacles are the only "good" examples you mentioned. The thread on clan expertise is good, but ironic and kind of dishonest considering A3's reputation and talent for starting trouble in many communities. The CBL League isn't representative of the entire Mega Man community, and they sure as hell don't hold very positive opinions about him either. Pouring prize money into the game is completely irrelevant too. The all-encompassing flaw of everything you said is that
none of these things have excused or will ever excuse bad behaviour everywhere else.
jdagenet wrote: ↑Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:24 pm
This thread should've never have come to this, but when people are allowed to derail without punishment and administrative action is abused, then I suppose it was inevitable.
I'll concede that you're right about this too. I mean, RustKing tried to derail the thread twice already and nobody's saying a thing! And don't think I forgot about Mobius getting little more than a slap on the wrist for insulting me a million times before, while I somehow also got punished for defending myself against him. But that's in the past now, and I do believe the staff is in better footing these days.
Mobius wrote: ↑Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:35 pm
You even admit that a masterban is excessively beyond the scope of Nax's authority here, and that he must play by the book. So if he isn't playing by the book then the book becomes irrelevant which is why I said "if you ban me for this then there isn't any rules," because that would apply to him not holding to the standard which he, himself, set forward.
I stand by my opinion that a masterban is not the way to go, but I personally won't bother contesting it if it comes to that, because I still agree with the notion that you are a net negative to the scene. If the proverbial book is not helping us resolve this situation, it's a simple matter of rewriting it until it becomes relevant again -- at least, that would be my next best proposed solution to Nax & co.
Mobius wrote: ↑Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:55 pm
You guys talk about loving doom but the guy who hates doom is putting money out for Doom. We can't have our own little professional paid talent? That's bad?
It is bad if it comes from you. Nobody took issue in Bones and Dewww providing their own prize pot to IDL. Nobody took issue in Jakob providing prize pots to a ZDaemon duel tournament. Nobody took issue in Jace Hall pouring one grand into a survival challenge. Nobody had a problem with you using that money on CBL either! Money is good, but it should come from someone who has our backs in more ways than just the money, and preferably isn't disliked by everyone. It's not our fault that you alienated yourself from the Doom community long before you considered throwing money at it.