Mobius wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:03 am
I know a friend of mine who played doom once in his life and I am pretty sure he'd join that group to just to show support. It still leaves to wonder why you'd make the purchase for players especially "hardcore veterans" who couldn't help you set up a vanilla doom server but yet you reference dwango and pay 120 dollars for someone to make a config of barrel respawn, hazard suits, and MAYBE double ammo. You mean none of those guys out of 15k couldn't do that on tspg and lead from there or are we talking about 14,992 people who joined and only 8 of them actually play doom.
First, your friend is the type of doom fan that makes up a large portion of our group. Yes, I absoutely agree on that. But that's also the same person that I'd like to try to get to play DOOM more. If we can do group events and topics that attract more attention from the casual or infrequent DOOM player, then the group is doing its purpose. YES, i agree... that's going to attract only a handful of the overall headcount of the group. But at the very least we are reaching out to some, and maybe sparking interest in it once again. Call me crazy, but I really do want those folks to come back and play or draw folks attention to DOOM. I figure by hosting servers and doing these events, that it will get more of them involved.
Second, I don't really have a good answer for that. I've hosted servers using Doomseeker/Zandro for Windows off my own desktop on and off for the past several years, however I was simply using the create a match option in doomseeker to setup game ini files. I eventually gave up on this because (a) I was doing it from my desktop which I didn't want to leave running 24/7 and (b) I don't have a static IP from my ISP. It was a pain (actually one of my previous threads from a couple years ago proves this:
https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 289#p85289 ) I'm not a linux expert, and I up until i started learning a bit from what Miles was shwoing me, i didn't really "get" how the linux port of Zandro worked. I didn't know enough linux to comfortably get around in it to get to the point of creating those same gametypes and getting it all up in running. Yes, there's probably a good amount of people who play zandro in my group that I could have asked, but I've known Miles for some time and he has his own VGP group and he always seemed pretty confident with setting this stuff up, so I said "Shit, why not? I'll just ask miles". He's handled my buddies server, David Ganz (or you may know him as HDRAMBO) who runs a DWANGO-inspired server (and yes, i played a shit ton of DWANGO back during its heyday in DOOM/DOOM 2, as Ganz was a houston dwango admin (though i did not know him at that time). And he didn't seem to have any issue with VGP either, at least none that he mentioned to me. I guess i "could have" asked someone else from the group, but the one i knew who knew a lot about zandro hosting and dedicated servers off the top of my head was miles, so I asked him. I know thats probably doesnt answer your question, but thats the honest answer. I don't personally know who runs TSPG. I've defintley seen and heard of their servers. Even played on them quite a bit. I'm sure he or she is a awesome person and also a expert at getting these things configured. But I kind of like to stick with who I know I guess.
I mean i've already stated the reasons why I have no issue paying VGP to handle that all for me, and I think I've mentioned that repeatedly in prior posts. It's not an exorbant amount of money, not by my standards, its pretty reasonable to me. And it is my money, thus I shall do as I see fit. To make a the best comparison I can think of, I have Linux servers in the datacenter at work that I don't really understand, they're there because they have to be for certain functions required by projects and corporate teams, and even though there are many ways to do free Linux distros and all the resources out there to learn and vast communities, I really have a lot of other stuff I have to do other than just mess with Linux, so I pay RedHat engineers for support and they do their thing with the Red Hat Enterprise Linux they setup and install. Same way I treat Zandro and VGP. I really don't see why that's all too different as far as a service model goes.
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